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yeh, the bottom of the quill comes seperate fine, just the actual stem then won't budge. (quill similar to one on the right http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=1927&src=froogle)
bin using a park tools crank extractor and a really long spanner, so pretty similar set up. and yeh, 's the inner bit that won't screw in. If i try and force it it starts threading the cranks, even with the outher bit screwed fully in.
eggpie, frame's steel. parts dunno to be honest.
ball joint puller, elaborate...