Goodbye sweetheart - farewell to a dead bike

Yep, I've become more discerning about HT length in recent years. But there's still a lot of room for manoeuvre with different stem/bars combos.

True.
But definitly more of a risk for myself, and other hobits, especially flexible ones. The general idea is that short folk have less/or no saddle-bar drop, and need a long HT, and subsequently a relativly long ETT. I've near given up on the idea of a 'sportive' frame, as these exagerate the problem.