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  • i find kneeling on the ground next to the bike and placing the tip of the saddle level with my right eye and an outstretched arm touching the rear of the stem means the bike is perfect.
    much better than getting a decent fit by a trained professional in a bike shop

    Yeah, and if the bike makes a nice solid noise, when held by stem and saddle, and dropped 1". It is a good bike. Test rides pfffft.

    (I also purchase stereo systems based solely on the smothness of the CD eject mechanism)

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