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@Wicksie
Gosh, now there's a reply. Cheers James. I love those kata bags.
I'm really more after a day bag as it's going to have all my day to day shi.. in, as well as a few cameras, so more of a casual messenger than an actual camera bag. I reckon the way forward is a sturdy, waterproof padded messenger with some domke inserts or similar.
Ideally I'd like both but recession and all that.