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That's special.
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gabes you funny fucker
- An Ceiling Cat sayed, i can has teh firmmint wich iz funny bibel naim 4 ceiling, so wuz teh twoth day.
- An Ceiling Cat sayed, i can has teh firmmint wich iz funny bibel naim 4 ceiling, so wuz teh twoth day.
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For all your ceiling cat needshttp://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/papercraft.jpg
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The mechanism of natural selection itself is not random, rather it is variation within the phenotype which is the random process. Variation must be present before natural selection can act; the process which generates variation must drive evolution, and not natural selection itself. Natural selection, rather than being random, is a perfectly explainable correspondence between characteristic and environment.
Variation in phenotype is driven by random genetic mutation. The proximate mechanism of natural selection is fit between organism and environment. This is indeed perfectly explainable, but the underlying process that drives evolution -- as you say, a necessary condition -- is random mutation. It depends on how one delimits the causal chain of events whether one includes random variation in the mechanism of natural selection. You are probably right to say that the mechanism is not (entirely) random, but the driving force is randomness. This is why it does not makes sense, strictly speaking, to talk of "progress" (or design) in evolution.
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Invoking a creator who made the mechanism of natural selection only adds more questions without adding any explanatory power; without falsifiable hypotheses, of which faith is incapable of generating, it is not science.
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holy shit when did you start talking like tynan?
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Should I abuse my moderator powers and throw in some "dude"s and "fool"s?
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Duder! Invoking a creator-dude who made the mechanism of natural selection only adds more fucked questions without adding any explanatory power - fool! without falsifiable hypotheses, of which dudes of faith are incapable of generating, it is not science. Fool.
Chukker Chukker Chukker!
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holy shit when did you start talking like tynan?
I give him a fucken visit, ya' get me.
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god doesn't exist.
Impossible statement to make !?
You'd need to know what the 'thing' is that you are claiming does not exist.
You might as well say "+7^56%64 does not exist" - and when asked what '+7^56%64' is - answer (if honest) "I have no clue what you (and I) are talking about".
God doesn't exist is literally similar (epistemologically rather than culturally) the same (not similar, but actually the same) as saying "colorless green ideas sleep furiously".
Ie: it's a nonsense statement, a category mistake, as much as it follows very basic rules of syntax.
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorless_green_ideas_sleep_furiously"]category mistake[/ame]
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Ohhh, religion - you dark whore, let me ride your cold back.
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1) The mechanism of natural selection is random, therefore, humans are the outcome of a random process (i.e., there is no purpose inscribed into life)
Natural selection is anything but random !
Speciation through natural selection is incredible, literally incredible, vastly complex, stunningly consistent, it makes ridiculously towering predictions (based on the system), enormously arrogant predictions, predictions no other theory could dare make - not even something so 'self-evident' as the theory of gravitation - and each and every time, always, and with breathless accuracy - is show to be absolutely right.
It is many things, but it is certainly not 'random' - the whole foundation of a theory or hypothesis is to suggest that there is a 'system' (pattern) to what is being hypothesised, If it were random, there would be no theory, axiomatically.
I understand the difference between the actual process and the theory, (you are commenting on the process) but the theory is based on a sound footing by the facts of the process, none of which are random.
2) War_rape describes Rape committed by Soldier , other Combatant or Civilian during armed conflict or War . During war and armed conflict rape is frequently used as means of Psychological_warfare in order to humiliate the enemy and undermine their morale.
An October 2007 New_York_Times article[105] reported on the large numbers of rapes occurring in the Eastern Congo near Rwanda . It reported (emphasis added):
Eastern Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo is going through another one of its convulsions of violence, and this time it seems that women are being systematically attacked on a scale never before seen here. According to the United Nations, 27,000 sexual assaults were reported in 2006 in South_Kivu alone, and that may be just a fraction of the total number across the country.Numbers and rape figures with a little teleology doesn't make an argument, the theologists are a few steps ahead of you here, and the Calvinists have passed the finishing line before you have heard the starting gun if this is your reasoning !
can you prove it?
Currently, Mr Gabes is in the correct position, questions only.
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The mechanism of natural selection itself is not random, rather it is variation within the phenotype which is the random process. Variation must be present before natural selection can act; the process which generates variation must drive evolution, and not natural selection itself. Natural selection, rather than being random, is a perfectly explainable correspondence between characteristic and environment.
Not that this affects your proof of God's non-existence.
- a few million.
Well said.
- a few million.
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this thread is amazing right now.
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Le Chan making peace with the young T BONE
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Thanks T for sorting that duder out.
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Numbers and rape figures with a little teleology doesn't make an argument, the theologists are a few steps ahead of you here, and the Calvinists have passed the finishing line before you have heard the starting gun if this is your reasoning !
Whoops !
I meant to say 'theodicy' not 'teleology'.
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I think.
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i'd love to hear chan's opinion on all this right now...
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Le Chan making peace with the young T BONE
that woman in the background looks a bit... shocked or disgusted or something :-s
Boreded Ceiling Cat makinkgz Urf n stuffs