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i think what i'm trying to say is that having been around Old Street and Shoreditch since the days of The Blue Note and those old backstreet pubs that are still there but not what they used to be, all that shows is I'm older than some of the people there now.. I've seen the crowd change enormously, from easy going clubbers to coke-twitchey wankers to suited city squares to normal Friday nighters, then a few years ago it got interesting again, and yes it was the fashion and art crowd. there were some fucking good nights going on there a few years ago. It very quickly became incredibly shit again as time out and rough guide made sure to include it as a must-visit place to go out, so that all kinds of twats rolled up to get hammered and be lairy.. and that's where it is now. But the worthwhileness of going out for the night in Shoredich has gone up and down over the last 15 years, and nowhere else in London has been as interesting in that time frame. A hotel for wankers, directly opposite a hotel for salesmen and tourists who got confused on the internet, will do nothing to help Shoreditch send the people who are currently making it such a boring, on-the-lash place away - it will just increase their numbers.
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it's called progress. when i worked round there it was just photographers, artists, dancers and the rag trade. now it's a hideous place to spend a night (i am pushing 40 though) i really like soho and smithfield/farringdon now. not so many tossers in suits or hipster kids.
they can keep shoreditch/hoxton, build as many pubs and bars as they like to stop them going elsewhere.
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Art crowd has always been around there, a lot of the old music people got priced out tho'... I loved the shit out of the Blue Note and getting pissed up in the Barley Mow when the only peeps in there were old drunks and cute girls in go-go boots... And more recently Smersh was a brilliant place...
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Not noticed anyone mention Plastic People yet. One of the best sound-systems in Londinium.....and some of the best DJ's (to my taste) playing there still. Shame about the pissed up pricks that drift in there looking for a late drink tho always good to see them scared off by the bass after a couple of bottles of becks.
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He's still involved. I listened to the chill out thingy album with the sheep the other day, but fell asleep.
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it's called progress. i really like soho and smithfield/farringdon now.
progress? how is a place that used to be interesting and produce interesting things turning into just another place for squares to get bladdered and puke all over the streets progress? does it always have to turn to shit once it got a bit more interesting?
and jeez farringdon is just shoreditch without any interesting or young people whatsoever, an awful, parochial place where dress codes are still enforced.
Not noticed anyone mention Plastic People yet. One of the best sound-systems in Londinium.....and some of the best DJ's (to my taste) playing there still. Shame about the pissed up pricks that drift in there looking for a late drink tho always good to see them scared off by the bass after a couple of bottles of becks.
a good illustration,and that's how it's been for the last few years
anyway, i don't go out in shoreditch any more, because it's shit.. shame it's about to be dealt a blow that may never see it get off its ass again.
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Having said that^
Plastics has always been good, from the Oxford Street days.Not noticed anyone mention Plastic People yet. One of the best sound-systems in Londinium.....and some of the best DJ's (to my taste) playing there still. Shame about the pissed up pricks that drift in there looking for a late drink tho always good to see them scared off by the bass after a couple of bottles of becks.
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Run down areas become popular with arty types, then more more money comes in and the whole thing gentrifies. Shoreditch is not the first area this has happened to. It's the way things are IMO.
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Yeah Leni, you love us then you leave us, for a cooler more creative european capital.
I feel dirty.
Yeah, God, London is like so 2006. Berlin is where it's at.
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That's a myth unfortunately. Not sure where it came from.
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dude you just show you're living in the past with comments like that.. you seem to have missed out on a bunch of club nights and drinking holes since then that ironically made it the shit hole it is now. No one coming to Shoreditch on the back of their rough guide or time out is doing so in recognition of what a cool place The Conqueror was.