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Im coming from the perspective of the critical mass creating safer roads, more riders, safer roads- it follows, yes?
point taken about buses, its more scary the bigger the physical size of traffic.
but if you ask the majority of average riders why they are on the pavement , they will just say 'because of the traffic'
when we train kids/adults we do indeed take them through a progression from local roads up, and thats good as you suggested. but where does that leave inner city people? if they arent disposed to training, being educated and reading these sorts of forums what are they gonna do? you guessed it, ride on the pavement.