BB for Sugino Maxy's/Miche hub

Hi, i've UTFS and only come up with this one thread, so please don't rain on me if this is a much discussed or even dumb question.

have purchased Miche primato wide flange track hubs (32h) and this Sug Super maxy chainset, possibly in a wild bit of optimism that i could feel my way through to a decent chainline.

there's only one similar precedent in the TrannyBase, and that person used something esoteric for a BB (3SB (121.5mm asymmetric cup&cone) that looks like it might not be too easy to come by..

so my question is: what's the best way to pick the right BB that will magically turn this combo into a thing of linear beauty?

i kind of had my eye on the traditional BB from velosolo, but they've said it's really fiddly to get right and won't recommend it one way or the other. am after the more vintage cups if possible to go with a rather old school rotrax track frame.

so, if you've made it this far without losing the will, then i bet you've got a notion or two on the right BB for me.... in which case: grazzie

Could give the Miche BB a go. It's cheap and adjustable.

Have you checked the transmission database here online intsead of the spreadsheet? Is the spreadsheet ever updated like the online version?

I have the one piece Super Maxy crankset and use a 115mm Tange BB with 1mm BB spacer. Might be different to your Super Maxy though.

Seems they made them one piece (swaged) and with seperate chainrings (like yours) too.

Suprised that someone has a 121.5mm BB listed there when mine is 115mm. Makes me think the two versions are quite different.

are the cranks jis or iso taper?

mine look like these

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h208/markdhudson/cranks.jpg

yours are like these..?
http://a31.idata.over-blog.com/600x401/3/20/92/68//SUGINO-super-maxy.jpg

are the cranks jis or iso taper?

JIS

(unless I'm mistaken)

I'm using JIS BB with no probs.

i kind of assumed so being sugino, thanks for confirm. i think only sugino 75's are iso out of their current catalogue.

thanks for your erudition, Gents.
if we're saying it's a JIS taper, then the Miche is out, right?

i guess, more than anything, i'm after the 'method' of figuring out the best setup. is it: consult the trannybase, take an educated guess, then adjust/space accordingly?

if that's the case, then the Sugino or Tange at around 115 mm seems to be the right ballpark.

or am i missing something? still kind of holding out for something vintage and clunky looking, like the cups on Origin's Roberts frame that he sold about three weeks ago (and which i'm still secretly in love with....)

on the Trannybase, there's been four updates since i did the spreadhsheet...would be quite easy to add those....and generally a better way to manage it, i think, since you can sort on different components...but i have a feeling it won't catch on.... ;)

it is theoretically possible.

you may as well get a cartridge bb, fit and forget, no faff, and people will only see the ends of the bb. getting a tange and then later changing is also an option as they are so cheap.

you can always adjust chainline with chainring washers or cog spacers, both available from velosolo

I'm not sure you can judge what length you need by mine as mine is the one piece and looking at yours it might be one that would also work as a double, so may need totally different length BB.

I had the option of 115mm or 118mm (tange do good variety -- Sugino are more limited). I went for 115 as I figured I could space it out a couple of mm if needed with spacers on the BB which was preferable to putting spacers behind the sprocket if the 118 BB was too long.

Even measuring and calculating fairly accurately I still had to just fit the cranks to the BB I'd bought and work on what was in front of me with spacers to hand. Can be very difficult to calculate totally accurately without the parts in front of you, especially using second hand cranks.