Are OTPs approaching custom standards?

No.

The assertion remains as dumb now as it did then.

Rephrase... "Are M&S suits approaching Saville Row standards?".

No, they never will. It's not just the materials or colours... it's the fit, it's the bespoke nature, it's the personal preference and attention to detail.

Didn't this thread die? Why is it back?

Velocio, clearly, its my belief that Saville Row and Mercian (for example) are over-rated. Its my view that OTPs, in my eyes, are approaching made-to-measure. I think the Colnago Super Single Speed is a good example actually, as is the afore-mentioned Ciocc Mockba 80. If that goes against the grain, then I'm sorry, but it was only my opinion.

I added comment to this thread because I feel that efforts by Kona, etc, are making made-to-measure harder to justify for SOME (but not all) people. Since you disagree with me so strongly, I think this thread has outlived its usefulness. My opinions on such bikes shall now be a private matter. I won't express them here any further. Consider me "told". I live and learn, so its all part of the process.