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@Skülly
No-one's offended dilster. I wanted to show you lots of bikes, with similar old-fashioned geomtry, set up this way. coppiThat decided to put it into words for you. I used to think the exact same thing, then I learned that it was done like that in the 'good old days' (eek).
Can't believe no-one's bought this, really. Makes the Pashley Guvnor look silly when you can buy actual old things rather than faux reproductions.