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It's simple- go and buy an Arione, you will then be comfortable.
End of thread.
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I pissed around for ages with different saddles, then bought an Arione. Then I bought one for my other bike. Job done
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How is the correct way to ride the saddle? ( i read the post - i dont understand). What is the correct angle for the saddle? Is it affected if you have drops or risers? Are you suopposed to straddle with the tip up your bum??? Crunching your nuts? Is that why there are some without the pointy bit? Are you supposed to carry your weight on your peddles?
I ask this more about long term damage as well as comfort? Obviously comfort should be intuitive but if a courier who does 100s of miles a week says its better to ride one way, it may be better to acustomise a riding style to match that.
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I think some people are more sensitive than others, the saddle I use matters to me but not massively unless I'm on 100 + mile day rides fixed. Being fixed seems to make a bigger difference to me. As long as it's a narrow-ish saddle I'm cool.
I've also been experimenting with no padded shorts (still lycra just no padding) recently and have found this has been pretty comfy. This was on a freewheel bike though and although it was all day 8 hr + riding I had regular stops so I'd be a bit nervous of using this method on a long fixed road ride.
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How is the correct way to ride the saddle? ( i read the post - i dont understand). What is the correct angle for the saddle? Is it affected if you have drops or risers? Are you suopposed to straddle with the tip up your bum??? Crunching your nuts? Is that why there are some without the pointy bit? Are you supposed to carry your weight on your peddles?
I ask this more about long term damage as well as comfort? Obviously comfort should be intuitive but if a courier who does 100s of miles a week says its better to ride one way, it may be better to acustomise a riding style to match that.
Most saddles should start off flat (spirit level flat) And then make micro adjustments if required. I prefer nose up by a degree on most saddles as it keeps me back on the saddle (worse thing for me is any feeling of sliding forwards which puts extra pressure on wrists/hands/arms/shoulders)
Ideally you body should rest across the bike with equal pressure so no single area has to take all pressure. This is easier on a race bike than an upright town bike though! -
Are you supposed to carry your weight on your peddles?
On a standard road bike you should share your weight between all three sets of contact points. It is also recommended to 'get-out-of-the-saddle' regulary. Personaly I find I sit far more riding fixed, and shift more weight from my pedals to my saddle when spinning quickly. This may be partially down to poor cycling form on my part though :)
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Hmm lots of opinions, i'll have to look into this further.
Regards milage- I dont actually own a full blown racing bike at the moment, as im not competing. I ride a specialized allez for commuting with an OTP specialized saddle, which gives me saddle sores if ridden 25 miles daily for around 2 weeks (although im now using a cream for this....may help prevent in future).
Im getting into audax rides, i have a 160 mile day ride to nottingham comming up in a month and reguaraly ride upto 100 miles at a time (surely brooks territory). If i was racing, comfort would be swapped for weight, but IDGARA at the moment.
I guess spending a little on a few used saddles could be the cheapest and easiest way forward, i.e. Brooks, concor and another flite
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there has been suggestion of a saddle library but no one really took up on it
otherwise find a friendly shop that has loads of saddles, cyclefit have a huge range of saddles for when doing peoples fittings. as a customer of theirs they have been happy to lend me a few saddles in the past.
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I have tried:
Bontrager - something or other (has a small gooch cut-out and kevlar corners)
Fuji Track
Rolls
Charge Spoon
Arione Wing Flex
Specialised bog standard squishy OTP saddle.None of them have been comfy, aside from the specialised OTP, but that starts to rub the inside of your groin after a while.
I'm starting to believe I will never find a saddle that doesn't hurt my arse.
Still to try an SLR, but just cannae afford one at the moment - not even a ripped up cheap one... -
Since you're gonna be a spacky next year.. can I have your T1?
No - it works too well on my alu/carbon road bike.
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Charge Spoon does it for me, I do 30 miles a day on my commute and 40 or 50 on the weekend.
They are cheap as chips and come in three colours. -
It's simple- go and buy an Arione, you will then be comfortable.
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My favorite for the road bike (that gets ridden for the long miles). For me it's easily comfortable for 120 (dry) miles with a good set of bib-shorts.
Brooks are good too, and will mould to any odd-shaped arse - getting more comfy with age.
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Charge Spoon does it for me, I do 30 miles a day on my commute and 40 or 50 on the weekend.
They are cheap as chips and come in three colours.+1
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Now its my all time favourate saddle. Like sitting on a walnut for the first 5 minutes of a ride, but after that its perfect. I spend much more time seated when riding fixed too, so something most be right. I read somewhere that its based on the flite, so maybe I should look into getting one of them at some point (that saddle^^ is no longer produced :( )hey, i've got that one too. +1
although, the arione would be my second pick. the sheer length of it makes it easy to experiment with where you want to be fore-aft wise while riding. -
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My favorite for the road bike (that gets ridden for the long miles). For me it's easily comfortable for 120 (dry) miles with a good set of bib-shorts.
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I find them hard as a rock. I was pretty surprised because I had seen much love for them. I don't use bibs though, maybe that's the reason.
for me it is a Concor or Turbo (though I haven't tried much more, really), I can sit on my bone with any of them, while with the Arione is my perineum that sits.
answering the question: I tried until I found those two.
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Arione... most people get on with them straight off and the length suits movement back and forward for climbing and sprinting. SLR is easy to get used to and clearly lots swear by them... I hear similar things about the toupe but always find it looks a bit like an slr sponsored by Max Power Magazine, just needs a blue light underneath...
Im getting used to the concor but cant help thinking i wish they made it in standard black leather still. the suede seems to grip you on a saddle that would be great for sliding backwards and forwards on for different conditions.
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I've been riding a Selle San Marco Phobos Saddle for the last few months, and I am quite impressed. Got it for super cheap, too. Aside from my old Brooks Swallow (best saddle ever), the Phobos is great. Super durable and I only feel pressure on me sit bones.
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Arione... most people get on with them straight off and the length suits movement back and forward for climbing and sprinting. SLR is easy to get used to and clearly lots swear by them... I hear similar things about the toupe but always find it looks a bit like an slr sponsored by Max Power Magazine, just needs a blue light underneath...
Im getting used to the concor but cant help thinking i wish they made it in standard black leather still. the suede seems to grip you on a saddle that would be great for sliding backwards and forwards on for different conditions.
Suede is great for grip, but it tears holes in your pants rather quickly.
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LOL. Hate to admitt it but +1
I bought one of these for the fixed, based mainly on weight and looks.
Now its my all time favourate saddle. Like sitting on a walnut for the first 5 minutes of a ride, but after that its perfect. I spend much more time seated when riding fixed too, so something most be right. I read somewhere that its based on the flite, so maybe I should look into getting one of them at some point (that saddle^^ is no longer produced :( )