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Looked for the Audax MK3 though.
Maybe I just got it wrong ... there was an older guy and a younger guy. The older guy from the stall was caught up and the younger guy just didn't explain anything in a way that I could really understand it well enough. Maybe it was his accent. Just left confused for some reason.
Also he didn't give me an indication about the weight, I wasn't able to lift the bike up or anything ... weird experience.
All I can remember is that the Audax MK3 with shimano 105 equipment will set me back 1700 ... pretty much the same I'd pay for a custom built enigma with columbus tubing and nice lugs (which I'm keen on) ...
But I did hear good comments from other people about thorn bikes, and I wanna find out what's so good about them, as compared to roberts, enigma, etc on one end, and condor on the other ... if that makes sense?