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i think you ride in pretty benign winter conditions, or for not very long periods of time. Which is totally ok. I'm not trying to act tough. I just know where the weaknesses lie in my situation. and so i address them. wet hands are cold hands. cold hands are miserable hands. miserable hands means i don't ride. Same with feet.
I deal with snow every day from november until march. literally every single day. The sky closes over us like the lid to a white box and doesn't open until april. We don't see sun. and it's COLD. not cold like -5C... cold like -25C. Add to that all the salt they drop on the roads and it's actually wet. Wet and way below freezing.
The reason we have this weather is that we are on a very big lake (Lake Erie) and we lie underneath the jet stream which dumps arctic air us. The jet stream goes over the lake and picks up moisture. The second it hits the land, the moisture falls out of the sky as snow. We call this the "snow belt".
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowbelt[/ame]
we also get legitimate storms. thats all i got to say. It's cold man. If my gloves didn't keep the water out, i'd be sending them back.