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• #77
I work with at least two people who fit that description.
I'm still waiting for an easy-to-install Randonneur.
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• #78
It ain't about psychology of transport.... it cost me almost zero money to get to work each day whereas everyone else spends money. I don't know why people think that is something to be ashamed of ... I think it is fucking excellent.
I think you've invalidated your first sentence with the mention of shame right there (self pwn :) ). No, it's all about what motivates people and why. I totally sympathise with your desire to do something with little fuss and at little cost, but many people immediately associate this with a desire to be less interconnected with others, both those who do what's considered 'normal' but also those for whom you might go for help and services for your transport. Having seemingly fewer connections and seemingly wanting to spend less on yourself (apparently lower standard of living in their eyes) causes many to disapprove. So, yes, the psychology of transport choices largely does involve the psychology of transport choices. :)
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• #79
"A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing" (Oscar Wilde)
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• #80
My bike..
:)
:D I was referring to the wannabe gangsta car.
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• #81
I think you've invalidated your first sentence with the mention of shame right there (self pwn :) ). No, it's all about what motivates people and why. I totally sympathise with your desire to do something with little fuss and at little cost, but many people immediately associate this with a desire to be less interconnected with others, both those who do what's considered 'normal' but also those for whom you might go for help and services for your transport. Having seemingly fewer connections and seemingly wanting to spend less on yourself (apparently lower standard of living in their eyes) causes many to disapprove. So, yes, the psychology of transport choices largely does involve the psychology of transport choices. :)
For me there is very little motivation to ride my bike other than I like doing and I hate sitting in traffic queues. When I meant about psychology, it doesn't really come into for me and I don't understand why it comes an issue with other people ... maybe I think far too simplistically for this to be an issue.
On your last point if people are so petty to dissaprove because I can "make do" with what I have, I don't want to "interconnect with them" ... but that is another subject entirely.
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• #82
For me there is very little motivation to ride my bike other than I like doing and I hate sitting in traffic queues. When I meant about psychology, it doesn't really come into for me and I don't understand why it comes an issue with other people ... maybe I think far too simplistically for this to be an issue.
I'm really just talking about the feelings that motivate people to do this and that, and how they're tied into their value system. Just as you like and hate as above, others like and hate for different reasons and often complex motivations. And that's what I find extremely interesting.
On your last point if people are so petty to dissaprove because I can "make do" with what I have, I don't want to "interconnect with them" ... but that is another subject entirely.
Oh, fair enough, of course. What I'm trying to talk about is really just how people often understand affording certain things as a kind of commitment to the society that surrounds them, and that produces and maintains these things. Around here in bike nutter land there can be a similar mechanism at work concerning nice bike parts. :)
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• #83
Agree with superprecise, the bicycle is the the most efficient machine ever invented by mankind, after 100+ years still doing exactly what it was designed for perfectly.
Returning the exact amount of energy expended by the rider.I contend that a kayak is the most efficient machine ever invented.
kayak > bicycle
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• #84
even so it's still cheaper than a new £30,000 BMW that usually expected of people with higher salary.
Ed. The people who drive those cars don't buy their own as a rule. They're part of their employment packages.
Leaves more disposable income to spend on Serottas, Cervelos, Robin Mathers, et al...
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• #85
I contend that a kayak is the most efficient machine ever invented.
kayak > bicycle
Race across Australia?
You're on...
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• #86
I wouldn't understand why anyone would want to live in a 80 room house with a garden that you have to drive around to see and have to employ other people to look after it ... it is totally nuts.
What's your beef against creating much-needed employment in rural areas?
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• #87
it's called the trickle down effect.
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• #88
...says Mrs Myth...
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• #89
I personally measure it in the size of the sandwich I have to buy at lunch to save money.
Nice one lucas! I think I probably do spend more on lunch! Otherwise I think this is a pretty obvious thread... no ones gonna think their life any the less rich for being a cyclist!
One hour a day on my bike is exactly the ticket for me, enough exercise to balance a job infront of computers, enough excitement to keep me on my toes, a cash saving in my bank account for every day that I don't get the tube, something to stand for... a piece of road and highway code to defend... a top speed to beat... the ability to eat anything I like and not get fat! I think more people should cycle... they'd be all the richer and probably in better shape for it! who wants to spend a ridiculous amount of money on a car in a city like London anyway!
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• #91
Cycling is making me poor, but that's due top my obsessiveness and passion for fiddling, fannying, making things shiny, buying stuff I dont need etc. My transport is my main hobby, so I don;t care if it costs me more than the tube.
If I had a car I would spend more on it just to keep it going, I don't know how people who don't have a very good job afford to run a car, it's a money black hole. At least with my bike parts I can flog them all again if I need to pay the rent.
My friend is now £14,000+ in debt because he wanted a Golf GTI. Dunce. If I had even £1000, I would have got a 125 motorbike again and possibly another bicycle, and have waaaay more fun
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• #92
what was it about the cynic knowing the price of everything but the value of nothing?
not sure how thats relevant but it came to mind.
My bike..
:)