ASL vehicle offender

To play Devils advocate, i think that half the time cars who are stopped in ASL's are there because they were in traffic when the lights turned Red

Yes that's definitely true but there are still lots of people who drive right on to it when the light is already red, and loads more who drive halfway on it as if to say "well I don't really want to observe this but I suppose I should".

However Oliver probably has it right ie who gives a shit really - I should unclench about it.