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@tom.g
i see your point. so my budget is about £40, compatibility i have no idea, so this is what ive got and any help would be appreciated; shimano BB, no idea about it and wont until the frame arrives so thats pretty unhelpful, formula hubs. looking for chain ring 42T ideally. if someone has cheap cranks that they know will get a good chainline with formula hubs and a specific BB then i woulnt mind having to buy a new BB if it doesnt put too much on top of the budget.