£400 to £500 to spend on frame

If you had 400 to 500 pounds to spend on a frame what would you get, I want a Bianchi pista concept but cant find any.
Any ideas what else is good?

THANKS YOU GUYSSSSSSSS

What material?

Something covered in glitter with 'nagasawa' stamped on it.

Last time I spoke to him, äsm here on the forum had a few Pista Concepts knocking about. PM him if he still has.

He only does package deals with arrospok though.

I can sell you my IRO for 500 dolla :]. Great deal!

The baby blue fixie is within your price range.

Is that the one with added Gorgeous?

i would get a frame that fits you. anything else is a waste of money.

I will message asm thanks for your help you guys I owe you biggy style, danka, merci and most of all slainte

i would get a frame that fits you. anything else is a waste of money.
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irish dallat123? dolan track champions are nice too

As Irish as ya get bud lol. First names Emmet, can I fit brakes to them though

you can get a road fork. mikes bikes in dun laoghaire sells them (the track champion). i bought a pre cursa from them a while ago, the service was great.

If I have £500 I would go to Mercian to get a custom frame in my choice that fit me perfectly well.

for the track?

Planet X carbon!

For the road, I currently live in Newcastle and work hard in Morissons byker and go to Northumbria, and love bikes, I just want something nice I can use on the road to commute to University. I like the old school look but like lightweight

Planet x or the new Dave hinde frame.

But that as rpm says would be a choice for the track.

I'll sell you my Bob Jackson for £300 of you like?

For the road, I currently live in Newcastle and work hard in Morissons byker and go to Northumbria, and love bikes, I just want something nice I can use on the road to commute to University. I like the old school look but like lightweight

Bob Jackson is nearby, you can try and go there to get a custom build bike.

steel frame are pretty lights, even the standard Reynolds 631.

For the track...lol

If you had 400 to 500 pounds to spend on a frame what would you get, I want a Bianchi pista concept but cant find any.
Any ideas what else is good?

THANKS YOU GUYSSSSSSSS

Unless you really wanna go fixed I personally would just get an early 90s racer that has been looked after and you have a decent nice looking bike that doesn't cost a bomb to ride to University and back from. (Oh and they are fast).

steel frame are pretty lights, even the standard Reynolds 631.

Agree. Alu track frames tend to be overbuilt to make very stiff and don't usually work out that light (not compared to alu road frames any way)

I have had 2 alu track frames and they were both around 1700g which is not much lighter than steel. The areas where weight can be added on a steel frame is the fork (vs a carbon one on alu frame) and the quill stem and screw on headset (if using a quill stem) Of course you could use a carbon ahead fork on a steel frame but missing the point a bit imo.

Thank you everyone for your opinions, yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah