Frame too short - remedies?

Oh yeah, sorry I forgot the OP - I thought it was too big!

If it was an OTP, I would advise to go up 2 size probably.

As it's a custom job though, take it back/throw it away/burn it.

Move the saddle forward so that the seat pin is in line with the concor logo. Level the saddle so that the tip of the front is in line with about a centimetre in front of the top edge of the rear. Put a shorter handlebar stem on. Tighten up your chain. Report back as to whether that has fixed your problem. If yes, great. If no, go back to the builder.

Like the others, I thought it was too big. If it's still to short even with the way you've got it set up, go back to the shop.

Ok thanks all. Looks like the remedy is to take it back. Thanks for all the help/patience.

I think you must have a very long body and/or arms. Frame doesn't look like it has been made with a short top tube in relation to other tubes and it doesn't look much wrong from a seat tube/head tube perspective. So if you are comfortable with the seat right back and those long bars and stem then you must need an extraordinarily long top tube. Which is good as you wouldn't ever get toe overlap :-)

Oh FFS. No one called "Slack Chain!" on the bike in question. We must maintain standards people.

Oh FFS. No one called "Slack Chain!" on the bike in question. We must maintain standards people.

done twice .............. keep up.

done twice .............. keep up.

Sorry if I missed something

It look like a standard build to be honest, not a 'custom' job.

It look like a standard build to be honest, not a 'custom' job.

How can you tell? Different mftrs have top tube lengths that vary by 2-3cm on the same c-t size frame. I still reckons he needs a frame made for a chimpanzee

the bars and stem combo could easily be rectified ?

my chain is now tight - aeeey thenk 'euw

How can you tell? Different mftrs have top tube lengths that vary by 2-3cm on the same c-t size frame. I still reckons he needs a frame made for a chimpanzee

I do definitely have a longer than normal torso.

I do definitely have a longer than normal torso.

Which is a good reason for a custom frame. Just need to make it right...

I think you must have a very long body and/or arms. Frame doesn't look like it has been made with a short top tube in relation to other tubes and it doesn't look much wrong from a seat tube/head tube perspective.

Too much seatpost showing too if you ask me. If you consider it to be a standard square track frame (seat tube and top tube same length), then could add 3" to the seat tube and still have a fistful of seatpost showing. This would of course give you 3" more of top tube or say 2" more reach with a 110mm stem, and less set-back on the saddle. If your upper body is indeed long, then you could go for more standard road geometry and have a longer top tube. Then you'd be looking at 3" extra reach with a standard set-up.*

To put it into perspective most framebuilders size in 1/2" increments. ie. your frame is something like 6 fecking sizes too small. Sorry, but this bike will never fit correctly, it needs changing.

(*guesses based on little info)

How can you tell? Different mftrs have top tube lengths that vary by 2-3cm on the same c-t size frame. I still reckons he needs a frame made for a chimpanzee

frame appear to have the same c-t-c size on seat and top tube, and the geometry appear to be fairly normal, it look more like an OTP sizing than a proper custom build sizing.

the custom aspect would be the colour, the type of tubing, the choice of lugging, which pretty much a custom job itself.

frame appear to have the same c-t-c size on seat and top tube, and the geometry appear to be fairly normal, it look more like an OTP sizing than a proper custom build sizing.

It's not the first time it happen, someione here who is 5'11 end up getting a 52cm frame.

like the Bob Jackson OTP frame line-up actually.

Looks like square geo to me.

Even with very standard square geo ther are benifits from going custom though. You can customise the tubing thickness to your weight, strength, riding style etc.

frame appear to have the same c-t-c size on seat and top tube, and the geometry appear to be fairly normal, it look more like an OTP sizing than a proper custom build sizing.

That's what I was getting at. A custom frame could end up just like an OTP frame depending from one manufacturer. If enough different frames are tried in same size there is enough variation in top tube, bb height etc,. to probably negate the need for custom unless the person is a very odd shape, like Hanson :-)

NO WAY! I HAVE ONE OF THESE! my friend foudn it in a bush! were going to get the free wheel welded so its fixed - it was so corroded at first it was fixed! so much more fun fixed!

What some other people have said. If that was a stock size - say, a 54cm - you'd want at least a 56cm, and possibly a 58cm, depending on personal taste.

I'm happiest with bikes where the top tube and stem add up to 64-65cm, but prefer minimal spacers under my stem (I flex long steerer tubes), so prefer my bikes that are around 55+10, rather than roughly 53+12, as they'll have taller head tubes.

Smaller frames tend to have steeper seat tubes, so I'll 'gain' 1cm of virtual TT length in order to get a seat angle I'm comfortable with i.e. saddle is pushed back an extra 1cm.

Fucking hell that was convoluted and tedious - but the kind of stuff it's worth knowing before thinking about splashing out on custom builds, TBH.

EDIT: When shops measure you up, if they've got a surplus of small frames, but you're a medium (in an ideal world), unless you show some suss, they'll most likely sell you the small, and adjust with stem/seatpost. If you don't show any suss, it probably doesn't matter that much to you anyway, so who fucking cares.

what is this 'suss' and can i get it from Wiggle?

I'm not sure, but they've got 20% off 'nous' this month.

Hanson: How tall are you?

The frame looks about a 54/55cm. The bullhorn bars look like they might extend the reach a bit, compared to ordinary drops.

I reckon if you're anywhere near 6 foot, the frame will probably be too small for you.

Hanson: How tall are you?

The frame looks about a 54/55cm. The bullhorn bars look like they might extend the reach a bit, compared to ordinary drops.

I reckon if you're anywhere near 6 foot, the frame will probably be too small for you.

I'm 6 foot tall mate. It def is too small for me, not by much, but def too small. Bummer.