Cycroc 20 inch fixed

Just seen these on TFG. couldn't find a thread up here that mentions them. Anyone ridden one? seems a bit pricey but if it's the next big thing i'll willingly flog my snakeboards, longboards, rollerblades, fixie and banksy prints to leap two-footed onto the bandwagon.

http://www.tokyofixedgear.com/productdetails.asp?productid=01028

Wtff?

They've been mentioned on here before somewhere. Suggested they'd be good for polo

hows the foot jamster? are you back on the bike?

Reminds me of the 20" kids "mountain bikes" that you'd see churning around council estates in the 1990s.

hows the foot jamster? are you back on the bike?

Shit. And no.

I'm bored out of my skull. I'm realllly hoping it's sorted in a week though, as I'm heading down to London and I'll be relying on the bike to get around.

But thanks for asking! ha :)

I think you'd probably be better off driving. Not many bikes in London i've heard (certainly no fixed scene) - the roads are pretty much empty and parking is a doddle. It's just south of St. Helens I believe, 45 mins tops.

looks like max's wierd thing he rode on the brick to brix bmx outing

I like em - begging for a Tuff on the front for mini HHSB win!

Words escape me.......

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They've been mentioned on here before somewhere. Suggested they'd be good for polo

I think you are thinking of the Sillgey Piccolo as discussed in this thread?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ9NEW8h0kw

Part of me really wants one but luckily the price is high enough to put me off.

I like em - begging for a Tuff on the front for mini HHSB win!

Now why did you have to go and put that idea into my head? I've already got an ACS Z Mag ready and waiting...

theyre that price because of the amount of import tax, seen Max's one but havent had a go, looks like a fun though

theyre that price because of the amount of import tax, seen Max's one but havent had a go, looks like a fun though

Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that they're overpriced or that there's a hipster tax on them.

It's just one of those things that I would probably buy if I was paying the Japanese (in this case) or American price but after tax it's too expensive just to buy on a whim.

I've been scouring the internet for more Mini Velo goodness and I just found these beauties:

Looks like a word of pedal-strike hell to me. How do you get it round a corner above 10mph?

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Original image from my Flickr here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/27302326@N08/3909840177/

Erm... What's wrong with a BMX?

we were messing around on Skulls' build at Trixies on Tuesday.. he's put a left-side drive on it for the hell of it (well more cos it works in with his grinds) and i liked it a lot, it's obvious it's a right laugh to ride.

The best of the lot at the moment is without doubt a guy's called roofer, he built his frame "to see what I could build from tubing I had lying around".. it's an awesome bike, made almost lo-pro geometery, GT-like triangle, monofork(!) and one of the most beautiful paintjobs around (though his is two-speed and even the transmission is unusual). I stopped him on Dalston Lane a few months ago to ask him about it.. heard from skulls on tuesday he has since built one for Ben Wilson...

I reckon these are going to be seen around a lot more, there's something about them.

Erm... What's wrong with a BMX?

and the answer is....there's nothing wrong with a bmx..

Erm... What's wrong with a BMX?

To make a BMX rideable while seated (properly rideable with same seat height as on a 700c bike) the seat post needs to be around 500mm, yes that's half a metre! Although thinking about it a Brompton post must be that long.

That is what is wrong with a BMX. These bikes give the advantages? of 20 inch wheels whilst still giving a good ride position - well I presume they do, I have never ridden one so am only guessing on that.

heard from skulls on tuesday he has since built one for Ben Wilson...

I reckon these are going to be seen around a lot more, there's something about them.

Funnily enough I went rootling about for a picture earlier:

I didn't post it though because I was distracted by these:

and the answer is....there's nothing wrong with a bmx..

That's what I was thinking.

To make a BMX rideable while seated (properly rideable with same seat height as on a 700c bike) the seat post needs to be around 500mm

To be fair, that's not a fault with the bmx though, it wasn't designed to be ridden like that.

In the same way these will probably snap if you start spinning them down stairs but that's because they're not designed as a bmx replacement.

Just to be clear: I am not trying to justify these bikes in anyway. I think they are thoroughly ludicrous but that's all part of their charm. I will never need one, I just want one.

To be fair, that's not a fault with the bmx though, it wasn't designed to be ridden like that.

In the same way these will probably snap if you start spinning them down stairs but that's because they're not designed as a bmx replacement.

Just to be clear: I am not trying to justify these bikes in anyway. I think they are thoroughly ludicrous but that's all part of their charm. I will never need one, I just want one.

Actually I think they were designed to be ridden like 'that'. A smaller 'fixie' is obviously going to appeal to the tricksters and that is how they are being marketed by people like tokyofixedgear. Sillgey are suggesting uses like polo. In any cases it is a compact & robust simple bike that easily up to the odd bit of hucking in addition to commuting and a bit of polo. It is a little fun bike.

In terms of comparing it to a bmx, strength wise they would probably be very similar(possibly better except for thin lightweight wheels). A BMX is made out of similar materials, but has a relatively tiny headtube with massive 2pc handlebars. The puts a lot of stress on the headtube juction making it a common area for bmx frames to fail. You could argue that the bmx 2pc handlebar design it an outdated relic of the chopper/stingray/motorbike inspired early bmx's The fact that nearly all bmx'ers run bars inline with forks kind of renders the concept pointless other than for looking cool.

The geometry of these seem similar to a bmx with the seat all the way up, but design of the frame is optimised to be strong like this by the high top tube & long headtube. Such a setup would probably be problematic on a bmx because people would want to do tailwhips. But this bike is obviously not designed with that aim. It is designed to be as rideable for transport as your regular riser equipped urban fixie bike. But it has the merits of a minivelo, compact to store, lighter, stronger, less rolling resistance, easier to throw about etc.

I think its pretty pointless saying 'why not just get a bmx' it isnt a bmx and I dont think its trying to be. The riders in that video are just showing some of the bmx inspired fun you can have with it. But the bike is clearly useful for things a bmx is not. No one sell's OTP BMX commuter bikes. A diy setup with skinny fixed wheel & high seat would look stupid, and geometry would probably feel all wrong. It probably be tricky to get a brake to work on narrow rims too.

Love it!

This i need in my life