• If you are referring to my post, then I was just suggesting that more extreme rules/conditions tend to lead to a wider spectrum of behavior. This could lead to more accidents.

    this isn't what Denmark or the Netherlands has seen from having this enshrined in law. They're way safer to cycle in than here.

    An example of a negative result would be when I nearly gave my 3yo whiplash. I was driving home from a shopping trip when a cyclist on the path crossed a zebra crossing in front of me, without slowing or giving any warning. I'm happy to say that I reacted instantly. The fact is though, had I hit this cyclist, it would have been deemed my fault. This, and the fact that I had to listen to my son sobbing in the back untill I could stop, did not help me feel pity for 'the more vunrable party'.

    in the latter case, try doing that in the Netherlands or Denmark and see if the stupid vulnerable party gets any less blame. I don't think so. Your witnesses would say 'cyclist nutter' and given a change in law this will happen IMHO and you are OK.

    Absolving people of personal responibility is a dangerous game.

    Although I agree totally with this.

    it's not saying that, it's just shifting liability on a Civil law basis. Get your cameras installed in your c*rs(!)

    I think it will take time for society to adjust and there will be extreme cases reported in the press. On the whole, this should help in the future with attitudes on the road, and for my niece + nephew's sake I'm thankful. Might not happen in my lifetime.

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