Cyclists in London could be allowed to ignore one way streets

I should add the only way I see this working is if they do it in a similar way to how they have on Pitfield Street in N1, where the cycle lane going against the traffic flow is seperated with a raised island, and very very clearly marked out/sign posted.

I should add the only way I see this working is if they do it in a similar way to how they have on Pitfield Street in N1, where the cycle lane going against the traffic flow is seperated with a raised island, and very very clearly marked out/sign posted.

Works in Hammersmith too, along King Street. Confuses the shit out of the resident Polish alcoholics as well as the crack heads!

works a treat in cambridge too

I always cycle "one-way" and that's my way

So you don't do the Mooncycle, then?

I was going to contribute to this thread, but you pretty much hit the nail on the head.....well here goes anyway:
For the record, I think its a stupid idea, its bad enough that I have to deal with the fuckwits on their "vintage-shopper-dutch-wank-shit-mobiles" coming the wrong way down Brick Lane every single morning, if they start rolling this out across London its not going to be a good thing, people should just learn how to navigate properly on their bikes, this would stop such idotic things like riding the wrong way down a very long one way street.

James, I'll be most happy to explain if you want.

For the record, once a street has proper cycling permeability added to it, there is no longer a 'wrong way' for cyclists.

See

http://www.hackney-cyclists.org.uk/permproj.htm

http://www.hackney-cyclists.org.uk/permeability.htm

I should add the only way I see this working is if they do it in a similar way to how they have on Pitfield Street in N1, where the cycle lane going against the traffic flow is seperated with a raised island, and very very clearly marked out/sign posted.

Notwithstanding your latest crash, you don't actually need to segregate a contraflow at all in most circumstances. We do prefer full two-way working, but where only a contraflow can be provided, you can actually even get away with a very narrow lane. See Greenwood Road and Navarino Road, E8. Looks scary under some circumstances, but visibility is good and there haven't really been any issues--the collision record is very good.

Segregation can sometimes be a very good thing if it has a specific purpose. Under most circumstances, it doesn't (see the horrendous Bloomsbury cycle track). But take Eagle Wharf Road, N1--we got that returned to two-way operation some years ago. There is a long segregated bit at the eastern end. This is because EWR used to be a terrible rat run, which is also why it was made one-way. The long segregated bit was necessary to stop motorists from nipping in there quickly and starting to rat-run again. So there are times when it's useful, but not always.

The Pitfield track is one of our longest-running annoyances, by the way. It was only introduced because the right turn from Great Eastern Street to Pitfield Street was kept when the Shoreditch Triangle was re-vamped in 2002/3. Had that right turn been taken out, the rat run to New North Road would have disappeared and Pitfield Street could once again have become the important community street that it is.

Permeability is the most important adjustment to be made for cycling in London.

anyone seen THE SUNDAY TIMES (20.09.09) page 11 cycling plan to blame all drivers for crashes - cyclist hit by car = drivers fault & pedestrian hit by cyclist = cyclists fault

timesonline.co.uk/news

can't find it there. Wasn't on the first page of search results for cyclist or cycling.

personally, I don't believe it exists.

This subject gets misreported/misunderstood all the time. There is of course no attempt to 'blame' drivers for all crashes. Here's the lowdown:

http://www.roadpeace.org/documents/Strict%20liability%20discussion%20paper.pdf

Could they have picked a worse picture? Talk about the most dawky looking cyclists in london.

Bit unfortunate. Riding on one way street in single file is ok, but swarming like that against incoming white vans?

Bit unfortunate. Riding on one way street in single file is ok, but swarming like that against incoming white vans?

They'd be wiping them offa the window like bugs.

Here in Brussels this is the norm on every one way street. I actually feel safer going into the traffic than along with it. At least you can see whats coming. As the cars know you are doing this legally they seem to give you good clearance and slow down accordingly.

Fucks with pedestrians heads tho! They seem to jump out like lemmings from behind parked trucks and vans.