• Have been thinking about this overnight and one suggestion that comes to mind is that any campaign/action that is undertaken comes from base of good information. At one point, concerned about accidents and fatalities on the road, particularly involving cyclists, Toronto comissioned a coroners report on road traffic accidents with a focus on cyclists. The report that was produced was well received by all parties for being clear, impartial and based on factual and credicle evidence.

    If I may put on my cold-hearted and impassionate hat for a moment: There is one area where we can benefit from fatalities is that they are well documented. Although reports may be littered with opinion they will always contain a lot of simple facts. I think that it could well be beneficial to request a coroner to be commissioned to conduct an enquiry into all cyclist and H/LGV fatal accidents in London over the past 7-10 years to provide an impartial, factual evidence based report on the factors that affected and were related to those accidents. If nothing else it would mean that you have credible and reliable information available when approaching skeptical/cynical stakeholders although it could well provide much more as the Toronto study did.

    Completely agree. Policitians dont listen to sob stories. They make policy on facts and stats, when they are indisputable and brought to their (and the public's attention). Already a couple of forum members have info and we have had someone contact us doing research on exactly this.

    Working grop - Statistics.
    Then we use these to influence policy. It is the starting point.

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