2009-09-17 - Cyclist down, Poynders Road roundabout

^for sure Ed, i guess all these thing start out with few knowing the meaning.... aka rubber wrist bands/pink ribbons..... but with support it would grow and with that also awareness. And finally, yes the design should be considered enough so as not to be confused with other associations etc.

I still think it's a good idea.

fingers crossed they are ok. still very sad affair, becoming all to common.

Christ. Just round the corner.

What a nightmare.

it's like the spokecard idea that sound great in our head, but completely useless in reality.

it could work if there are going to be another memorial/reminder ride where all the cyclists have the same armband, but at the same time, it could be a political ride.

point being, there are a surprising number of people who has no idea what a white bike represent (unless the bike have a big "RIP" sign on it).

absolutely right - i think we have to think exactly what we want the result and target audience to be. Then think of what the best way to achieve this.

it's like the spokecard idea that sound great in our head, but completely useless in reality.

it could work if there are going to be another memorial/reminder ride where all the cyclists have the same armband, but at the same time, it could be a political ride.

point being, there are a surprising number of people who has no idea what a white bike represent (unless the bike have a big "RIP" sign on it).

Eds got it. arm bands and spoke cards are about as much use as ironic moustaches shaped as arrospoks

Simply calling people out when they do it is 100000 times more effective and direct - this was probably not the first time this person went up the left, What would the outcome be if they had been warned before.

The memorial ride is an idea that worked, but i feel it needs to take on board all the sites where riders have died this year. OR known dangerous junctions

fingers crossed they are ok. still very sad affair, becoming all to common.

the loss is unacceptable, I cannot even remotely imaging how the people who know her feel this targic loss

Netherless, I sincerely don't think it's becoming too common.

This is why there's an action meeting being set up. Some people have ideas, other have experience of previous ideas etc.
I guess we'll finalise actions and ideas at the meeting.

This is why there's an action meeting being set up. Some people have ideas, other have experience of previous ideas etc.
I guess we'll finalise actions and ideas at the meeting.

Sometime the old way is still the best way, spread the word, make information sheet to hand out to people (not just cyclists), promote more HGV to have a sign on the back warning cyclists not to undertake etc. (I've notice more HGV/LGV have that now).

I think sometimes people are just to eager to get somewhere ahead of someone else, be it a pedestrian crossing on a green light (what's it going to save on your journey 2 minutes?), a car trying to overtake a cyclist where there is clearly no space or obvious advantage and more obviously cyclist crossing red lights.

I have embarked on a personal mission to try and cooperate and be as visual as possible with drivers, to make them aware of what i'm doing and if i notice that they have pulled back to give me space i will give them a thumbs up. Because i know i really appreciate a bit of road courtesy.

As a friend of mine once wisely said "we are all just trying to get somewhere"

It shouldn't be a battle and there are a lot of drivers out there that do not like cyclist...this should change and we as cyclists should try to force this issue as much as possible.

My thoughts go out to the people invloved in the accident.

Sage words, keep it up hugo. Me too. Praise the good behaviour as much as (or more than) pointing out the bad.

Again, though, this thread is not the place.

:-(

Apologies...no disrespect meant.

More shite news. Hope it's not as serious as it sounds...

sad news again. fuck that bit of road is local to me and not the nicest spot as pistanator pointed out.

Can't believe it, not again, I hope the rider pulls through.

I pray for the rider and their family that this is not another fatality. I wish our fellow rider a speedy recovery.

horrible news :-(
I really hope there's a good outcome....

i'll be riding extra carefully on my way home tonight.

Saw the news in an email David had sent. Not good. London streets are a mean machine.

[EDIT] I hope you guys have lights on your bikes. Not that they help you to see, but you get seen.

lets talk facts guys!!! i want solutions not bullshit...(pardon the french)
what do you think we should focus on? tougher penalties? bicycle training for eveyrbody (a license)? or simply publicity?
together we can find a solution and implement it! caammm annnn
i m so tired of careless drivers..lets make them taste a life wasted..in jail..

no no no! not another one. i really hope they are ok.

what is it with september? it was a bad month last year.

My thoughts go out to all the friends and family suffering right now because of this needless problem.

Your fears can be remedied by getting her to take some cycle training.

Cannot underestimate how right this man is.

(for once)

got hit by a van yesterday. Then after getting home i heard about the cyclist, now another.

:S

worrying stuff.

[QUOTE=flxh;952334]got hit by a van yesterday. Then after getting home i heard about the cyclist, now another.

ok, so why did you get hit? what kind of van? how could you have avoided it? was it possible to avoid? who admitted culpability? etc etc

proper analysis of collisions and near misses will help us find the solutions.
the authorities dont care or bother to work out why.

proper analysis of collisions and near misses will help us find the solutions.
the authorities dont care or bother to work out why.

+1