Action Group Meeting - cycling deaths caused by lorries

From Kate (Ktee):

This smacks me in the heart again, and again and again. Why is this happening?!? Why is the 'action' not working? There is no urgency, no importance, no priority, and no resources.

I am going to this meeting on monday, invited by Roadpeace. I have been working a lot with Roadpeace since Eilidh went down.
After putting up her ghost bike 2 weeks ago, several of her friends made further suggestions about action to take. I have a list as long as my arm already. The film we are making raises more and more questions. Since the ghost bike I felt overwhelmed and lost momentum but this is just not good enough.

I WANT TO PUT TOGETHER AN ACTION GROUP TO MAKE CHANGE AND MAKE IT FAST.
I cant carry on at my pace and intensity and there are already bodies like LCC and Roadpeace which need support. Cyclists have ideas, people have resources and connections. Let's work together. Many of you have expressed a desire to do sthg. I was planning a proper proposal/post/email but this cant wait so I had to post it here and now.

IM ASKING ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING TO COME AND MEET, ALL TOGETHER, to make a list (I already have an extensive one for comment), to prioritise, to delegate and to make change happen. Its up to us. Noone else is going to do this.

Im in London next week. Who wants to meet after work, maybe from about 6-7pm tuesday or wednesday, to discuss and get involved? Who can suggest/provide a location/ office somewhere central? I will ask at the meeting on monday what they think we could do.

For me, and for Eilidh, and for the other 6, Im sure this is the best thing we can do. Otherwise they die in vain. Let's make the death of this young woman propel us into action for change.

Please start another thread if appropriate...Im not sure best how to manage this.
Ktee

Tuesday Sep 22nd @ 6pm at the Lamb

i am in

I'll come along.

In.

1. K-tee
   
2. Ufrasia
   
3. Greasy
   
4. Skully
   
5. Pistanator
   

if you want i can help out and collect some facts beforehand. what's the issues, what's been done, by who....etc. I work in the industry (transport planning).

depends on interest really. may help as provides context to situation . though i'm happy if people want a more 'organic' dicussion.

IMHO - you dont need numbers at this meeting you need clarity. Im up for helping in anyway i can. Im sure there are more than enough forumengers that can chair this meeting etc.

ps im cant come but i am there in spirit.

Sorry to highjack your post Pistanator.
Could we add our interests/skills/contacts as well? No worries if you don't have any! ;o)

1. K-tee - construction industry and policy
   
2. Ufrasia - Media, Lobbying.
   
3. Greasy
   
4. Skully
   
5. Pistanator
   
6. Libi - Media
   

mg

^^^cycle trainer

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If we could start this an hour later, then I am in, if not i'm in, but can't get there until 7pm.

1. K-tee - construction industry and policy
   
2. Ufrasia - Media, Lobbying.
   
3. Greasy
   
4. Skully
   
5. Pistanator
   
6. Libi - Media
   
7. CrazyJames - Photography, with contacts in web design/graphic design/branding etc available if needed.
   
8. Multigrooves - Cycletrainer
   
9. Damo
   

If we could start this an hour later, then I am in, if not i'm in, but can't get there until 7pm.

1. K-tee - construction industry and policy
   
2. Ufrasia - Media, Lobbying.
   
3. Greasy
   
4. Skully
   
5. Pistanator
   
6. Libi - Media
   
7. CrazyJames - Photography, with contacts in web design/graphic design/branding etc available if needed.
   
8. Multigrooves - Cycletrainer
   
9. Damo
   
   

Damn cant make that day - but am there in spirit - as i said in other post - i work for in the CAB head office so if i can help get info/.leaflets out to all 350+ bureauxs to highlight the problem, then i'll do my upmost to make it happen.

Peace Twist

I cannot make this. But please please make sure you feedback the information from it.

I already have a site to donate to the cause ( http://www.cyclesafelondon.com/ ) and will in advance agree to anything that an action group decides providing that whatever that is, everyone commits to supporting it.

The single-worst thing regarding action has been the cycle communities continuing inability to focus on a few things and make those work. Everyone disagrees and then pulls different directions... the cat herding syndrome... and then nothing happens.

So I will give the full support of LFGSS and CycleSafeLondon, as well as hand over all power on CycleSafeLondon to help support some real action.

Great guys. Didnt want to get into the detail with people who werent interested. We will have an Agenda. Amy from Roadpeace is coming. She will give us a 5min summary of their actions/ issues. I will be at the LCC/Roadpeace/ etc Working group meeting on HGVs the day before so can feedback from them, although I am hoping that Charlie or Oliver will comen from LCC.
I have a list of issues. I want us to discuss and prioritise and agree action and responsibilities. Will prepare a paper for discussion and proposals which I will attach to the thread before the meeting.

Greasy, thanks for suggesting the Lamb. Anyone have any ideas of an office area rather than a pub area. We mean business not chat!

Lamb will not have the space and will be noisey.

How about along the South bank? there is space there in either foyet/hall

1. K-tee - construction industry and policy
   
2. Ufrasia - Media, Lobbying.
   
3. Greasy - Admin for Ghostbike.uk and CycleSafeLondon
   
4. Skully
   
5. Pistanator
   
6. Libi - Media
   
7. CrazyJames - Photography, with contacts in web design/graphic design/branding etc available if needed.
   
8. Multigrooves - Cycletrainer
   
9. Damo
   

I think the mayors office has some space available for community action groups. Alternative to that some pubs will have meeting areas away from the bar and the general public, such as the Plough on Museum Street. Can't guarantee they'll be free though. Best suggestion I can make really is to see if a local library or council office has a room available.

Not able to attend myself but if you plan to put up your notes and ideas for public comment then I would be more than happy to put input into them.

Velocio, you have pointed out one of the first issues.
We need a comprehensive list of what organisations are doing what work that is relevant.
First task - desk based study.
(Eg orgs: Roadpeace, LCC, TfL, cyclesafelondon, moving target etc etc..
Eg their respective objectives: action, reporting, comment etc)
Then we work out where there are gaps, why are they not succeeding. EG as you say "The single-worst thing regarding action has been the cycle communities continuing inability to focus on a few things and make those work. Everyone disagrees and then pulls different directions... the cat herding syndrome... and then nothing happens."

If you cant come on that day please add your name to the list and just put (apologies) in brackets and list your interest connections so can keep you in teh loop and on the list for the next meeting. Twist I mean!

Had suggestion of Imperial College library, South Ken. Cafe with long tables. Will be quiet then.

Lamb will not have the space and will be noisey.

How about along the South bank? there is space there in either foyet/hall

1. K-tee - construction industry and policy
   
2. Ufrasia - Media, Lobbying.
   
3. Greasy - Admin for Ghostbike.uk and CycleSafeLondon
   
4. Skully
   
5. Pistanator
   
6. Libi - Media
   
7. CrazyJames - Photography, with contacts in web design/graphic design/branding etc available if needed.
   
8. Multigrooves - Cycletrainer
   
9. Damo
   

10.geordieboy

Can't be there on Tues at that time, would like to be involved, please post the conclusions/actions.
I have it in my mind that the total London cycle deaths this year are 11 of which 9 have been as the result of collision with lorries.
I want to be part of trying to change this.
Digger (cycle instructor)

dont know what i did wrong there that was supposed to add on to the list!!!

1. K-tee - construction industry and policy
   
2. Ufrasia - Media, Lobbying.
   
3. Greasy - Admin for Ghostbike.uk and CycleSafeLondon
   
4. Skully
   
5. Pistanator
   
6. Libi - Media
   
7. CrazyJames - Photography, with contacts in web design/graphic design/branding etc available if needed.
   
8. Multigrooves - Cycletrainer
   
9. Damo
   
10. Georgieboy
    
11. Twist305 (apologies) - Citizens Advice Bureau head office
    

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1. K-tee - construction industry and policy
   
2. Ufrasia - Media, Lobbying.
   
3. Greasy - Admin for Ghostbike.uk and CycleSafeLondon
   
4. Skully
   
5. Pistanator
   
6. Libi - Media
   
7. CrazyJames - Photography, with contacts in web design/graphic design/branding etc available if needed.
   
8. Multigrooves - Cycletrainer
   
9. Damo
   
10. Georgieboy
    
11. Twist305 (apologies) - Citizens Advice Bureau head office
    12.Digger-Cycle Instructor (apologies)
    
    

Cant make this, want to be part of bringing change.

1. K-tee - construction industry and policy
   
2. Ufrasia - Media, Lobbying.
   
3. Greasy - Admin for Ghostbike.uk and CycleSafeLondon
   
4. Skully
   
5. Pistanator
   
6. Libi - Media
   
7. CrazyJames - Photography, with contacts in web design/graphic design/branding etc available if needed.
   
8. Multigrooves - Cycletrainer
   
9. Damo
   
10. Georgieboy
    
11. Twist305 (apologies) - Citizens Advice Bureau head office
    12.Digger-Cycle Instructor (apologies)
    
12. Velocio (apologies) LFGSS, CycleSafeLondon