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it was part of the pm programme.
there has been a study that showed drivers drove closer to riders when they were in a cycle lane than when they were not.
the corollary is that cyclists may be in more danger being in a cycle lane than if the road did not have one.
the interviewer said but cyclists dont follow the hc and do rlj's etc. chris peck of ctc said that a lot of road users dont obey the hc / road regs etc. and the presenter shut up for a bit.
and chris peck of ctc made the point that non and beginner cyclists kinda think that cycle lanes must be good but that more confident cyclists think they are not so good and cycle on the road via their desire lane.
chris peck went on to say that what cyclists want is for mpv's to slow down.
so yes please to 20 mph on all urban roads. then all road users are safer and we can stop these stupid attempts to segregate road users.
here endeth the lesson....
sometimes i think i am a bit of a tosser....