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  • It may oversimplify things somewhat, but we are simply people, who have a myriad of behaviours and characteristics that define who we are - none of which are dependent on gender, ethnicity, disability, sexual orientation or otherwise. The sooner society learns that, the better.

    Then society will never learn that, because it isn't true. You work in diversity Mooks, your job is presumably to prevent people being subject to unfair stereotypes. In order to do this as effectively as possible you have decided that none of us are determined by biology in how we live our lives or what we might be capable of achieving. I'm pretty sure if you sat in a project meeting or workshop and stated otherwise you'd find yourself on rocky ground in your line of work.

    You might not feel that you are ruled by your genome and I'm sure you could cite a list of people who would agree. This is not enough to debunk an argument or belief.
    Very often on this forum someone holds up a single example in order to refute a generalisation, its not enough unfortunately. As Bluequinn stated in his great post a generalisation is usually founded on some sort of truth. That truth may be outdated and may lead to damaging stereotype but let's look for reasons behind the stereotype rather than dismiss the whole process.

    Now that the subject is not so taboo, scientists (Evolutionary Anthropologists?) are looking at these generalisations and in almost all cases finding reasonable theories (based upon experiment) as to why there are differences in, for example, the sexes. It might well be the case that these differences are a result of deliberately applied stereotyping over millennia, but as already stated that's a bit 'chicken and egg'.

    Like many people on here I consider myself to be reasonably intelligent (my posts may say otherwise) and an independent person. Certainly in my teens and twenties I believed that my life would be different to those around me. Now I'm in my mid-thirties, 2 kids, married and paying two mortgages. This is instead of living in a yurt making bows for a living. So, what happened there? Fucked if I know. Some will doubtless say I have conformed. So what drove that subconcious need to provide and ensure that my kids are safe and secure? BMMF gave a perfect example of when our 'true nature' might show itself. Having kids lights up those powerful instincts.

    I'm sure that none of what I am saying is new to anyone and no doubt there are plenty of counter-arguments. As yet I've not seen anyone change their mind a bit in any of these more contentious threads so I doubt I'll be the first.

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