Recommend me an OTP BMX bike for 12y old boy

WOW...could this be? A major corp bmx company making an entry level bike that is lighter and better specced than the equivalent from the small rider owned companies that you've been saying are better?

How could a small rider owned company even begin to compete at that price range with the majors who have huge budgets and so have access to better components and production techniques for less money, and who specialises in making entry level bmx's. Where as the only reason the rider owned companies have bikes that cheap in their range is because they're trying to look like they offer a full range...so they have to settle for poorer quality components in order to reach the required price bracket...the frames they offer at that price range aren't even worth upgrading either.

Like i said all along...for bmx's at this price range....the majors offer better bikes..they may not seem as cool to the 'proper' bmxers, but they ARE better bikes for the same money. End of.

@Scott - you make the bmx industry sound like a floundering bunch of heshians who haven't been able to get their act together? While this was true for some time the last 5 yrs or so has seen a marked improvement in the business minds of many industry (bmx owned) leaders/owners. In fact, these companies mentioned above stopped moaning and went to work putting decent complete's together and as a result made the big guys move, this is healthy and show's that bmx rider owned brands are economic entities to be taken as an economic threat.

"trying to look like they offer a full range" - WTF, you mean the corporates here right? always trying to look like they are doing something new....

"poorer quality components in order to reach the required price bracket?" corporates again right? BMX has a pretty core market, it's not MTB, not skate or wake, it's not companies saying yeah we are bmx and are hard core and "proper" here is our shit product - you'll eat this shit up. Not how it works, not that much hype... yet

Anyways, the industry gets all their shit form the same sources in taiwan, difference is they (rider owned) go over and check on production and take care specing their bikes, it's their bread and butter, it has been in their interests to do this shit.

big corps don't do that - it's cookie cutter shit to them

The consumers/kids are much more educated these days and know their shit, the guys they ride with a little older know their shit, once some 15yr old tells a 13yr his GT is shit - new bike dad!! thats the way it works, always has in that sense, i seen that transition from last year down the trails to this, young guys learn so quick these days.

ok the fella concerned wants a bike for his kid to muck around on - why ask though unless u wanted to get clued in? £200 is £200 - don't expect the bike to last at that price bracket

frames not worth upgrading? man, three times now, again this is the exact opposite - corporate frames are the frames that need upgrading...

lastly, it does matter what bike you buy and who you support - Jamie Bestwick was axed from the GT team and they dropped all their riders, he is such an amazing rider and English, Mongoose did exactly the same thing - cept they replaced em with no name street guys, cause that's what is a big trend now - but 5 yrs too late - pathetic really.

SO - not end of, not at all....