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The Orlowski are 1.8-1.9kg and the Bob Jackson are estimated at 4lb which is 1.8kg too.
Now I am in the throes of a moral quandry, the last guy i spoke to at bob jackson was a prick but the one i just rang was really helpful and nice; brick lane bikes are always dickheads but jacek orlowski himself is super nice by e-mail so now i dunno what to do!
i may just go for the orlowski, i think the polish economy needs all the help it can get :-/