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Raynes Park is pretty bad, look at how the bike lane stop at the bus stop and start again a few metres down! very useless since it required you to get off the bike to cross certain part.
I fucking hate Raynes Park, drivers drive faster there than Central London and you get more drivers telling you to get off the road if you choose not to ride on the bike lane.
catch 22 isn't it? bike lane are usually dangerous, and the road automatically become dangerous due to drivers thinking that the cyclists should be taking the bike lane.
+1. I used to live at the A3 end of Coombe Lane, and I walking to the station as a commutenger, the number of near misses was terrifying. The bike lane at the eastern end of coombe lane, near raynes park station and the apostles, is about a metre and a half wide, divided into two lanes in opposite directions. Interrupted by people's driveways every six yards. And people park on the verge. And then try to kill you if you take the road. The speed is incredible along there. Glad I moved! -
this one confuses me every time, a T junction, but for some reason only cyclists AREN'T allowed to turn right....? I have no idea why..... it doesn't turn on to a dual carriageway or motorway just another regular road....
you might have to move about a bit streetview to see it heading the right way, a car is covering the sign when you are looking towards the junction
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this one confuses me every time, a T junction, but for some reason only cyclists AREN'T allowed to turn right....? I have no idea why..... it doesn't turn on to a dual carriageway or motorway just another regular road....
you might have to move about a bit streetview to see it heading the right way, a car is covering the sign when you are looking towards the junction
No, the road markings are correct. It might be clearer if they were in the nearside lane, too, but that might lead cyclists to position themselves incorrectly to go straight ahead through the modal filter (the cycle gap). As it is, what is meant is that cyclists should position themselves in the offside lane to go straight on. It does not mean a prohibition against turning right. (If the markings were in the nearside lane, as well, cyclists might get wiped out more easily by left-turning cars.) I haven't checked all the details of signage etc. (there are usually mistakes made at complex junction arrangements), but I don't see a problem here.
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Just be thankful you don't live in Swindon:
Ah yes, I recently passed this on a ride with a friend. It was magic.
The guy who designed it died last year:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2008/jun/21/6
It is certainly right up there with Spaghetti Junction as one of the most ridiculous pieces of infrastructure in Britain. Elsewhere in Swindon, the roundabout were disappointingly tiny, at least on our route through. :) (NB I consider roundabouts a load of bollocks quite generally.)
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They were invented purely to confuse the fuck out of Americans
This is true, but also false, so, errr, what I mean to say, in a slightly roundabout way, yes, they're confusing.
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Just be thankful you don't live in Swindon:
Actually not that bad. Obviously it may be preferable to not have a orbital series of five roundabouts (there are reasons for this) but if you are, then every one of those markings makes sense. I ride across that at least once a week and without any problems.
Worth noting, and it is shown in the picture, there is an off road cycle lane all way round the outside for the faint of heart cyclist.
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Actually not that bad. Obviously it may be preferable to not have a orbital series of five roundabouts (there are reasons for this) but if you are, then every one of those markings makes sense. I ride across that at least once a week and without any problems.
Worth noting, and it is shown in the picture, there is an off road cycle lane all way round the outside for the faint of heart cyclist.
You gotta admit though,that looks f*cking awful.
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As is often the case in Swindon, it really wasn't done with a sense of aesthetics in mind.
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It's a baby version of this:
**http://tinyurl.com/lazpt4
**which can also fuck with your head if you are not paying attention. -
And just for kicks, at Christmas they stick a huge tree in the middle so drunk drivers can't see what's on the other side.
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This thread reminds me to take a snap of the excellent Cycle Facility (operative word: Facile) on Lamb's Conduit Street. They're brilliant. Cycle lane that is usually full of bin bags, that lasts 150cm around a narrow gap between a bollard and a railing, straight into another railing at a right angle from the side one.
Not seen it on the warrington site and keep meaning to send it. Will take a driunken pic tonight.
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this one confuses me every time, a T junction, but for some reason only cyclists AREN'T allowed to turn right....? I have no idea why..... it doesn't turn on to a dual carriageway or motorway just another regular road....
you might have to move about a bit streetview to see it heading the right way, a car is covering the sign when you are looking towards the junction
The arrow means "right turn only" and the 'except cyclists' means "but cyclists can go straight on if they want". read your highway code
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It's a baby version of this:
**http://tinyurl.com/lazpt4
**which can also fuck with your head if you are not paying attention.We went through this on our way to Southend earlier this year, and it is really a stupid facility.
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The Warrington site is wonderful, of course.