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This may be innacurate but I have heard tell that the most common way to steal a bike secured with a cheap D-lock is just to pick the bike up and rotate it- the leverage caused by the frame turning in the lock is enough to pop the cheap ones off.
it is, but unfortunately if the U-lock is pretty strong, then it will actually damaged the frame easily.
some forumeanger got their frame damaged by theft trying that trick, it only work well on a cheaper U-lock really.
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Car jack are pretty much expected for a bike theft, the key is to fill in the space inside the lock to prevent theft from putting the car jack inside and break it open, that's another reason why smaller lock are idea like the fah mini.
Small lock - less leverage room.
Having said that, even the strongest lock can be easily broken if it is not properly locked up, I.e. Less vulnerable weakness.
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my intended setup: Kryptonite NY Mini fag, NY 3000, And a masterlock chain as a deterrent/to leave at college. Any comments? Will be keeping an eye on how that lock from peckham fares.
at the moment im just using 2 chains, ones just some piece of shite from a DIY shop, the other is the masterlock, but they have a bike pound at my college so i spose its all good. :S
also whats the deal with the evo locks? sorry if ive missed something here.
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My bad.
Apologies for being a mong. ;)
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I really don't want to post it, to let someone know how to stole a bike
but I think we still need to avoid it."Two of them were in tears, they were really really bad about it because, people develop such an attachment to their bicycles"
Man, I've only been cycling for about 5 months. I'd cry if my bike was stolen. It's not expensive, but I love it to bits. It's a large Carrera Subway, but a bit modified for endurance and speed. Also it's really light.
I think the reason why I care this much about it, is because I got it 2nd hand when it was quite damaged. And I knew nothing about Bicycles at the time so I spent my free time fixing it myself. I felt quite proud I did =)
Whenever I know I'm going to need my Lock, I have to drag it around with me. It's a really heavy chunky chain. It can make my journey's a bit difficult at times, I really notice the difference in performence.
It's an OXFORD Chain & HD MotorCycle Disc Lock.
Anyone got their view on this Chain & Lock?I would happily get a new one, but I can't really afford the funds right now...
But I can't risk losing that bike... Although it's possible to still break through the chain with heavy force I guess...
What is wrong with the people in this world :(
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Nope, your mistake is to assumed they're stupid, what we've mentioned, they already know.
I'm sorry but "they already know"? Maybe the ones who have been doing it for a long time do yes. But what about all the scallywags who don't know?
They can either go out, try different tools, fail at first and hopefully get nicked for spending too long or making too much noise trying too hard, or look on here, take the right tools and rob your fucking bike.
As there's now a lot more talk of what tools to use on what locks on this thread:
PLEASE MOVE TO PRIVATE, I mean why wouldn't you?????
Otherwise we are literally doing the legwork for startup bicycle thieves.
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They can either go out, try different tools, fail at first and hopefully get nicked for spending too long or making too much noise trying too hard, or look on here, take the right tools and rob your fucking bike.
If they really want your bike, they will get it, no amount of security/lock/method would stop them, they only act as a deterrent.
If you don't want your bike to be stolen, just use your wit, quite a handful of forumeager still have their bike for years, and some live in the east part of London even.
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I think you'll find that we did!
Atleast they know exactly how many minutes each specific lock will take to be defeated with either hand or power tools.
And which locks we do not recommend, and now on the thread, **which tools we use **for the tests!
Not having this is private IMO is **LUNACY! **
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Shit man, in that case we need to send an email to Bike Radar and tell them to REMOVED their review on bicycle lock, they even post how long it took to break it open! oh no! you're absolutely right! we should move it to private so they will NEVER find out!
it's **LUNACY!
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Of course you have a point edscoble,
but this thread has (and will have even more) all the information at a glance pretty much (as in every lock), which I don't agree should be public.
Of course there will be some information out on the web for thieves to read, but I just don't get why we'd need to add to that.
As really this info is mainly for forum members, rather than anyone googling how to break locks.
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Test 1........ Hammer, Crowbar, Boltcroppers (handpowered), any other suggestions?
Test 2........Angle grinder, battery powered hydraulic bolt croppers, any other suggestions?
Usually D-Locks are defeated with a car jack. Would the double locking prevent this, or would the cheap chinese-iness facilitate it?
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My mistake, on the first bloody page it mentions what tools!
PLEASE MAKE PRIVATE GA2G
Pman, a couple things....
The only person that moves threads, is Velocio. This is his forum, that he has kindly (more than bloody kindly actually), provided for us. Yes it is our forum too, because we are participants, but the ownership and rights therein are his.
I do understand your concerns about making junior thieves more educated, but that has to be weighed up against providing forumengers with valuable locking advice. For example, we have pioneered a new method of securing a bicycle here in this thread, and that is via using a motorcycle alarm disc lock. It was my idea to fit this to bikes, and the chainring is where I proposed it would work best. Clefty then trialled it, and gave it a comprehensive test. So much so, that the manufacturer cottoned on to what we were doing, and published her test on their website.
I am against moving this to the Private section, because non-members couldn't see it. Its a balancing act isn't it, that we inform ALL cyclists on better methods of security (ie. 16mm and 18mm locks only*), and take the chance that thieves get one step ahead of the game.
As it is, thieves walk around tooled to nick bikes with LESS THAN 16mm/18mm locks. 16mm/18mm locks provide too much grief, IF LOCKED PROPERLY. Much quicker to attack bikes that are cable-locked, or locked with rather puny U-Locks, or armoured-cable locks.
If everyone on here spent £30.oo on an GOOD QUALITY disc alarm lock, then Lfgss forumengers' bikes would be far, far safer. Those of the great unwashed, would not be so lucky. There will always be those that buy £5-£10 rope locks, and they will lose their bikes. The bikes (PROPERLY) locked with 18mm locks, and twinned with a disc-lock alarm, will be the absolute last choice for thieves. Yes, they could still nick it, if given enough undisturbed time, but thats the point of joint methods of security. The alarm should drive them away, or better yet, get them caught in the act, by a group of us.
*Except for the (13mm) Abus GranitX 54
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