Simple, Bombproof and Fixed

i was actually looking at a charge stove, but even though theyre listed in the charge website as 09 bikes, i cant find any suppliers. so converting an om flyer is not a good idea then? and by too heavy, what kind of weight?

Why would you want to convert it to a folding bike for polo? They are pretty sexy looking frames though, if I wasn't massively lusting after the 14 trick frame I probably would have put some money aside for one of them.
So it's easier to travel with fool. The S&S couplers are stong as fuck too.

Fair play, I guess it makes sense since you guys are travelling a lot for polo, wasn't sure how strong they are thats all.

http://www.sandsmachine.com/a_swa_r1.htm

Ok I guess that answers my question lol, and since we're on the topic of bombproof fixed shizzle, I went out for a brief sesh with Romain and Odge last night, cut short thanks to a broken plastic pedal lol (i'm switching to metal now for sure), had a little go on Romains bike, and despite being a million sizes too small for me it feels awesome, and the geometry is really really good. Although I wanna try and get a go on Oscars one when thats finished as thats closer to the size I need, it feels like a real good mix between bmx and mtb geometry.

can i just point out that everyone is harping on about trick bikes being bombproof but they are only as bombproof as the rider!

if you can come off on a big set of steps and break your legs and your bikes ok.. what's the f**ing point!?

anyhoo i've been riding since i was a wee boy and had every frame material available -including a magnesium kirk!am a little accident prone (nothing serious for over 10 years) but i have broken ti/4130/alu/magnesium blah blah blah - they all have potential to break. some more than others but it's far more down to the build than the material
i like the steamroller, proven bike - ridden by thousands and a great rep... good looking too, but a alu lansgter would probably be just as good for your needs.

P.S

basic rule applies all round... heavy=strong - light=less strong -eevrything inbetween-strong enough!

if it's your first fixed gear i would spend less and upgrade components/frame as you go along, you'll probably change your mind about your priorities pretty quick anyway so dont corner yourself into spending a wad of cash on an overly engineered bike that wont be as nippy or as fun to ride as a cheaper lighter (less bombproof) alternative

can i just point out that everyone is harping on about trick bikes being bombproof but they are only as bombproof as the rider!

if you can come off on a big set of steps and break your legs and your bikes ok.. what's the f**ing point!?
I agree with everything in your post with the exception of this bit.

The point is to see how far you can push yourself. The reason that I road moutain bikes for years was because it was fun, Whcih comes from the danger element.

The reason that I still BMX is because it's fun. Again because of the danger aspect.

Hardcourt Bike Polo. See above.

Climbing. The fear from the danger. It's fun.

I'd much prefer my gear to be up to it's task as using something which blatently isn't means that all you're doing is testing some companies product. Not your own abilities.
I've broken myself many many times but I always get straight back into it after the injury is healed (Or in many cases nearly healed).
I can still walk so I can still ride.
If I end up in a wheelchair then I'll take up off road riding.

You may not understand it, but then I'm not asking you to. Just accept that we're all different and some of us love this shit.

Have an awesome video.

I should point out I have experience of paralysis and how it can ruin someones life due to a spinal injury in my family. I also have perspective on how it can be a positive thing.

For me personally, if I stop trying I may as well stop living.

can i just point out that everyone is harping on about trick bikes being bombproof but they are only as bombproof as the rider!

if you can come off on a big set of steps and break your legs and your bikes ok.. what's the f**ing point!?

What a load of bollocks "only as bombproof as the rider" Thats the most bullshit statement I have ever heard, if a rider is pushing the limits of parts and breaking those parts without injuring him/herself then clearly they are more bombproof than the bike! and they need to upgrade their shit!

I jump down plenty of stair sets on my bike and my legs are fine thanks, because I know how to land a bike, obviously I do crash doing some things, but if I don't push myself regularly then I get bored shitless, and for me the whole point of this tricks thing is to progress, get better, and enjoy myself.
Its parts breaking that is the problem, and stronger parts/frames are being released and built all the time, a set-up that is built to cope with this kind of abuse, addresses this issue for fixed gear trick riders.
Slag it off take the piss out of the bikes aesthetics if you will, and the rest of you haters harping on about how it looks nothing like a traditional track bike can keep whinging also.....
But i'll continue to have a good time on my fixed-gear trick bike, jump down stairs, ride walls, banks. Now I finally feel I have got a bike that can take the abuse I am dishing out to it, I plan to enjoy riding it.

Is that not what its all about?

*Word.

*But not in relation to fixed gear freestyle because that's just silly. x

Thanks for that link Em, I only just watched that Video, that should be an inspiration to people everywhere, big respect for the guys in that vid, gnarly stuff that put a real smile on my face.

*Word.

*But not in relation to fixed gear freestyle because that's just silly. x

I like silly :p

Thanks for that link Em, I only just watched that Video, that should be an inspiration to people everywhere, big respect for the guys in that vid, gnarly stuff that put a real smile on my face.
It's awesome. To be hoenst I'm thankful that certain aspects of my life were less than ideal. It's shaped my whole concept of what is achievable.

I like to dish things out of la cuisine casserole dish. The cast iron is heavy and dependable. I know my stew has received good consistent heat all round, resulting in a succulent stew. Plus I also know that when people see me dishing up from a la cuisine casserole dish, they know I'm a man of substance, a man not to be triflied with. When you're using a la cuisine casserole dish, you know you've arrived.

enjoy riding it yes.. good call. all that matters to me.
but having a trick bike is not the be and all of strong bikes... plenty of 'normal' bikes will last ages being pushed hard
we coped fine years ago on shitty bikes doing huge tricks,

jason mcroy, steve peat and hans ray all used to ride alu bikes like the stumpjumper or zaskars (of which i have broken 2) but i wouldnt say to anyone that they aren't strong bikes

all the engineering in the world wont stop a bike from wearing out eventually.
specially if people are doing this...

i think if you ride that kind of fixed just like riding bmx and downhill you have to accept that bits are always gonna break, if it's not one thing then it's the next, if you make your stem mega strong it's just gonna make your bars fail or your headset or your steerer or your frame or youwheel instead and so on

the guy just asked for a nice strong fixed gear bike and you guys are recommending he build a tank 'just in case' he wants to clear a 16 set on the way to work

P.s again.... fixed gear BMX style bikes are mega overpriced still, why cant they be cheap as chips and strong? no frills strong and heavy would do very well.. not as if they require any expensive or advanced compents... they don't even have brakes! when will somebody build a cheap one? like the sunn b-mix :)

that wheelchair dh video is awesome!

Of course no matter how strong you build a bike, its gonna break/wear out eventually, but the stronger the bike is the longer it will last, I never said it was the be all and end all of bikes, the OP was never really clear about exactly what he wanted initially, he said bombproof, I gave him my recommendations for making a bombproof fixed gear, as thats what I ride.
Yeah...sadly things in the realms of fixed gear trick parts aren't cheap, but then again a comparably strong bmx is not much difference price wise, and yet the bike is smaller, less metal etc, but at the end of the day you get what you pay for I guess.
I bmxed for 7-8 years and before that I started doing tricks on my MTB, I then moved to bmx because it was more fun and better suited to being abused on a daily basis, hence the reasoning behind my building up my bike the way I have.
I need a bike to commute on, but I still want to be a big kid and do silly bmx style stuff, it fits my needs perfectly, but its by no means the be all and end all of trick/freestyle/street riding etc, there are endless bikes out there that you can go big on and have a good time with, I hear what you're saying though, it would be nice if there were some cheap alternatives out there to make it more accessible to people. But the whole fixed-gear freestyle thing is still so new, give it time though and i'm sure it will happen, the bmx companies are already dabbling in this market and making some really cool tricks specific frames/parts, I remember the sunn b-mix, that was a sweet bike :)

james, you break shit coz you are 20st

still searching for a suitable bike. I spoke gto evans cycles today, who seem to be the only people importing the subrosa malum fixed. its not due in the country till august, which is a bit to long to wait for me.The Surly Steamroller and the Volume creedence are still the frontrunners. However i saw a build over the weekend which was running a 26" mountainbike frame and fork but with 700cc wheels. Which got me thinking, could i do a similar conversion to a se bikes OM flyer http://www.tritoncycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m10b190s277p5359&z=6221 the clearance to the rear of the the frame looks ok, just not sure about that of the forks. So if anyone has done anything similar, i would be gratefull if you let me know. Cheers again.

I ride a Steamroller, have done for 3 years and it's ace. Rides really nicely, clearance for nice fat tyres and you can fit proper 'guards if you really want to (using P-clips).

However, if you've got a mountain biking background, then I'd strongly consider the Cotic Roadrat, as the frame is heavily based on the Cotic Soul mountain bike so the handling may be to your taste. It's a strong and versatile frame that you can build up any way you like. Now in lovely shades of brown as well. £635 for a complete bike, with either drops or flat bar (different top tube lengths so you'd need to pick which you prefer).

http://www.cotic.co.uk/product/roadrat

some a y'all need to watch joe kid on a stingray

have fun that's all that matters!!

Don't know if anyone still reads this thread, but have been looking to buy a fixed gear bike as well haven't ridden on since was abut 12. The Subrosa looks good but was told by briston cycles surly steamroller is tough and good, everyone else says plug is heavy and tough. Test rode plug, its heavy.

Maximillion if you've test ridden the Subrosa would like to know what its like. if you are still looking for one http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/25543/Subrosa_Malum_Fixed_Single_Speed_Bike_2010
selling them.

agar - search for list or OTP.