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  • hugo7, there's been some anecdotal discussion on here by forum members, that some OnGuard Brutes, seem to be able to be opened by the keys of some other OnGuard Brutes. I would assume these would be either from the same immediate batch, which for security, would be split up for international distribution. However, if same-locked devices become available in the same country, then I could see a problem with this.

    I've guessed that all lock companies say that their locks have 100,000 possible key combinations. But the cost of cutting 000,000's of different keys, would be hugely expensive. Cost savings for such a company would come from producing only a few 1,000 key types. Therefore, it would be possible to unlock other locks in the same range/batch, if lucky enough to find one.

    Trelock are German, and the "Chermans" don't muck about with serious things.

    Personally, I would buy the Brute for myself, but would make sure I had 2 locks on the bike - both being different, and from differing manaufacturers also.

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