• For those of you without the resources/money/access to tarp and water-proof materials for bag making, what about buying a couple of IKEA bags, £1 each and big enough to cut up and get enough material for the lining/outer of a large messenger bag. It could work maybe? Even if the material was doubled up for extra piece of mind. I've been using IKEA bags for heavy items and laundry and in two years I've not had any of the bags degrade or break. Even the handles could be recycled as they are surprisingly strong.

    IKEA's started doing smaller versions of the big blue bags now, so possible pannier bag liners?

    I don't make bags, so if the suggestion is cack, sorry!

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