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  • My point was really that statistics showing fatalities of accidents without relating it to what they had an accident with is a bit pointless.

    Not really. It shows the intrinsic risk of that mode of transport, in the real world - on the road, in the air, whatever. Most governments monitor these statistics so I'm not alone in thinking they have some point.

    Basically your stats suggest that the safest way to travel is for everyone to be in either vans or buses. I don't think this would lower the number of road deaths.

    The statistics describe how things are, they don't make a recommendation about how things should be. No one in their right mind would think that just using vans and buses was a sensible solution to anything.

    HGVs are very safe for the people inside them, not so safe for the people outside, something your stats don't show at all... unlike the planes (which are a risk in of themselves) if the world was only full of bikes and peds the number of road fatalities would drop significantly, so showing the deaths per km/journey/hour of them is a bit pointless, it's not the cyclist that is a danger it's the road users around the cyclist that are.

    Again, I'm not talking about counterfactuals, I'm talking about the real world. It's not interesting to speculate how many fatalities there would be in a world where the roads carried only cyclists and peds.

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