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  • As an overweight, unfit newbie a more sedate social ride would be just the ticket. I must admit, the routes on here and the speeds you mention, although not scaring me, which they probably should, would definatly leave me needing to inhale more beer than a big block chevey drinks petrol.

    that's why we're thinking of slowing down thursday and having a chain-gang nosebleed type day during some other day the week. Thursday is getting so big too ,21 last week so all speeds of riders were included.

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