Alpinebikes MTBs..?

For the record I accept that you can have a very stiff BB on elevated chainstay (E-stay, as I knew them back in the day) frames, but it takes more metal to achieve it.

Changing the subject, does anyone remember the UK company Ozone that used to make aluminium elevated chainstay frames? They were awesome (although still no Mantis).

That's what i said...more metal, as in bigger tube diameters to retain stiffness. :)

I remember Ozone...though my favourite elevated stay was definately my S-bike...I loved that bike!