Knog lights - kill them in the wet

Yesterday i bought a knog skink rear light, used it last night in the rain and within an hour it was busted, wouldnt switch off and then kept randomly changing settings...

took it back to condor just now and got a cateye rear light, much better and far more reliable,

Think twice before you buy some, if you reckon you can keep it dry then fine but otherwise avoid them, which is difficult i know because the look and concept is great, just a shame they are so poorly made.

the new version of the knog light are rubbish, isn't really waterproof, get dodgy easily etc.

go for the old one, they work much much better and pretty reliable.

I wanted to get Knogs but have been strongly advised not to.
So a mate is ordering some for me, but I forgot to ask what make blushes

They do look like Knogs, but a lot stronger

Cateye do some very good value front and back packs for about £60

I have a Knog rear light. It still works but it's just weak as piss. Get a cateye.

Lights Im getting are Blackburn fleas

For £10 this little beauty is worth every penny. Bright as you fucking like and great battery life, especially on flash mode.

+1 for this baby, it's a 1W star LED at the top and 3 standard ultra bright ones underneath. Flashes and standard, lasts as long as you like...

Blackburn are where it's at, bright as anything and a lifetime guarantee.

Blackburn are where it's at, bright as anything and a lifetime guarantee.

Good to hear another positive feedback, apparently the ones I probs will be getting are rechargeable?

Hope to see you weaving in and out of traffic in the dark soon then?

Definitely! :D

+1 for this baby, it's a 1W star LED at the top and 3 standard ultra bright ones underneath. Flashes and standard, lasts as long as you like...

Aye me too. I have the matching 5 LED front light as well. very bright combo.

Well i'm sure some are ok but the fact remains that the design is very badly executed. I am no scientist or electrician but i know that having the batteries and electrics of a light exposed to water is not good! water+electrics= .......busted light

I just dont understand why the lights battery compartment could not be enclosed and therefor protected from the elements, the rubber casing does not stop water seeping in at all.

Having said everything i have only used a skink, so perhaps my assesment is unfair, but i have heard enough negative reviews to convince me that they are not for me. I'm sticking with my tried and trusted cateye's!

http://chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=15543

really nice, used to be cheaper tho.

Australian irony?

Also just noticed the incredibly ropey Photoshopping going on there. Bar/wheel angle fail.

+1 for this baby, it's a 1W star LED at the top and 3 standard ultra bright ones underneath. Flashes and standard, lasts as long as you like...

+1 for the 'superflash' it's the brightest rear I've ever used and doesn't drink the batteries.

Only problems with mine is it hates water.

Even a slight humidity content in the air is enough for it to throw a hissy fit.

Hmm. That's not good.

Is it brighter than a niterider? That's what I want to know.

+1 for this baby, it's a 1W star LED at the top and 3 standard ultra bright ones underneath. Flashes and standard, lasts as long as you like...

0.5w actually. Also wattage is a pretty useless indicator of brightness. These lights arent particularly brighter than any other 2AAA light. But the clever flashing pattern and use of focused glare from the main emitter is what makes it very very visible.

The price on most websites is excellent too. TRADE price for a small bike shop is £11.50 but you can get them online for roughly £10.99 posted.

Smart lights are very well made too, even the basic ones. Strong reliable bodies & belt clips.

I find another useful real world test is if you stare at it, does it burn your retinas? The niterider passes this test with flying colours.

That is a depressing fact, in a way:

The price on most websites is excellent too. TRADE price for a small bike shop is £11.50 but you can get them online for roughly £10.99 posted.

I find another useful real world test is if you stare at it, does it burn your retinas? The niterider passes this test with flying colours.

That is a depressing fact, in a way:
why

Because there is absolutely no way your LBS can afford to compete, the internet price is below the price they buy them for the in the first place, so if they sold them at £11.50 (51p more than the internet) they'd still be making a loss due to overheads like rent etc.

Blackburn are where it's at, bright as anything and a lifetime guarantee.

Do they cope alright in the rain/humidity?

No idea yet, it's been rained on a few times and held up fine but I haven't had it long.

Because there is absolutely no way your LBS can afford to compete, the internet price is below the price they buy them for the in the first place, so if they sold them at £11.50 (51p more than the internet) they'd still be making a loss due to overheads like rent etc.

Tell me about it. I work in a bike shop and most the time I feel really sorry for the few people buying parts. Because they are usually paying hugeley to fix up a terrible completely unsuitable cheap piece of crap bike because they are either a bit thick/not savvy.

But those are the people small independent bike shops rely upon! knowledgable cyclists who want to support their shop or want the convenience are rare.

yesterday I went into work to grab something (my day off) and I made a bracket out of zip-ties and a piece of inner tube for a customer with a broken light. They were thrilled by it, and it made me feel really good. Times like this are not common, there is no freedom during paid hours to help customers with detailed advice/freebie repairs that I would normally happily do for any polite fellow bikey. We cannot stock any actually good bikes even though we can offer them at very good prices (in comparison to parts) because they are too much of a risk - no one actually buys them!

We have to focus on crap cheap wannabe mtb's & kids bikes so there is 'rotating stock' even if profit is tiny and its bloody frustrating!

Tell me about it. I work in a bike shop and most the time I feel really sorry for the few people buying parts. Because they are usually paying hugeley to fix up a terrible completely unsuitable cheap piece of crap bike because they are either a bit thick/not savvy.

But those are the people small independent bike shops rely upon! knowledgable cyclists who want to support their shop or want the convenience are rare.

yesterday I went into work to grab something (my day off) and I made a bracket out of zip-ties and a piece of inner tube for a customer with a broken light. They were thrilled by it, and it made me feel really good. Times like this are not common, there is no freedom during paid hours to help customers with detailed advice/freebie repairs that I would normally happily do for any polite fellow bikey. We cannot stock any actually good bikes even though we can offer them at very good prices (in comparison to parts) because they are too much of a risk - no one actually buys them!

We have to focus on crap cheap wannabe mtb's & kids bikes so there is 'rotating stock' even if profit is tiny and its bloody frustrating!

sadly it seems that this is going to always happen, the internet has massively changed things, just like there are no factories here/mines/etcetcetc.

will always be a need for bike mechanics for those who don't know what they are doing/don't want to buy expensive tools (like headtube facers etc)