2009-08-10 - Rider Down, Southwark Bridge, North side

Hope you have a quick recovery Mandy, glad to be reading one of these threads with a relatively good ending. Lots of love and healing vibes.

It's great to hear a bit of good news out of all this. Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Mandy.

great to hear the good news Mandy!

bit expensive but:
http://www.mothercare.com/Taga-Stroller-Bike-Red/dp/B0028XFJWG/sr=1-55/qid=1249402543/ref=sr_1_55/280-6026427-9426403?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=A2LBKNDJ2KZUGQ&n=42803041&mcb=core

Fuck me, HOW MUCH!!

Madonna probably paid less than that for one of her kids.

And having got to page 3 of the thread and read the good news, I'm now really happy again and pleased to wish Mandy a speedy recovery on behalf of myself and the princess.

And to the man who flagged down the truck and helped save Mandy's life, please make yourself known to us on here. We owe you a pint for your most excellent good deed.

+1

Mandy that's fantastic news. fingers crossed for a speedy recovery! X

By the time you are out this thread will be have covered off the merits of every possible mode of child carrier and probably got right through to terrible puns about rodents or fish :)

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Boom.

I'd just like to add my best wishes to Mandy for a speedy recovery.

My heart sank when I read this thread as it unfolded on Monday, so it's superb to hear that you are still with us and recovering. I think we all would like to buy the man who stopped the lorry a pint, let's hope he knows he did something to be genuinely proud of.

I was overtaken by a construction truck today - one with a digger arm today. I got given plenty of room, it had the extra mirror, a fresnel lense on the passenger side, and a big sign on the back telling cyclists not to pass on the inside. I would guess that the drivers for that firm had had some training too.

Good stuff. Keep up the campaigning people.

Its too simplistic to assume that all HGV/ cyclist from behind accidents are the fault of the HGV. I'm not saying that its the case in any of the incidents listed above, but to assume that cyclist are never at fault is obviously wrong.

Err. Have you read the HC?

hi all. it's me, mandy, the cyclist run over by the cement lorry writing from the hospital. just wanted to say a couple things:
--thank you for saving my life, man who stopped the lorry.
--thanks for everyone else's well wishes
--i would never commute along this stretch with my daughter-- i usuallly take her south to her nursery. we go everywhere by bicycle and my husband has a cargobike Lilly rides in too.
--happy to provide more details later if anyone wants, when i have access to something better than this hospital thingy to type on.
thanks again

Hi Mandy, so glad to hear that you are ok. I strongly advise that you speak to a solicitor BEFORE you post any details to any public forum. If there is any legal action in respect of your collision, you may find that any public posts prejudice the proceedings.

best not to quote her post then...

Nothing in there that wasn't in the original standard report, which would have come from the cops.

Err. Have you read the HC?

Yes I have. I said that I wasn't talking about the incidents noted above. Was I not clear?

Yes I have. I said that I wasn't talking about the incidents noted above. Was I not clear?

Lorry runs over cyclist from behind, both proceeding in same direction. In what circumstance would the cyclist be to blame? (Unless the collision took place on a road from which cyclists were specifically barred)

In the same circumstances where someone changes lanes. Technically the one hitting from behind is at fault, yes we all know that. But I've seen cyclists pull out into busy roads without slowing, assuming (hoping) that drivers will notice and take avoiding action and give them room. As I say, I almost did it the other night. Its very, very tempting not to stop, not to have to put the effort in to get back up to speed, to try and save that tiny bit of effort and time, to keep up the momentum.

I'm aware of your campaigning viewpoint, which I respect and understand. I also understand the need for you to hammer the point home regardless of reasonableness. This is also not the right thread to have this discussion, so for me, this is closed.

Yeah, and your Mum.

Heal up Mandy, best thoughts with you.

This is also not the right thread to have this discussion, so for me, this is closed.

Good, you weren't making a lot of sense anyway

The end of this horrible saga has really brightened up my day, get well soon Mandy!

I'm aware of your campaigning viewpoint, which I respect and understand. I also understand the need for you to hammer the point home regardless of reasonableness. This is also not the right thread to have this discussion, so for me, this is closed.

With respect, I didn't start discussing anything on this thread. So I fail to see why I should pander to your need to have the last word. You have only dealt in generalisations here, when we are talking about specifics, ie dead and badly injured cyclists. You have been kind enough to apportion blame (something which I haven't done - I leave that up to the courts), and now you declare 'this is closed' when taken to task. Did I say 'with respect'? I withdraw that.

Lorry runs over cyclist from behind, both proceeding in same direction. In what circumstance would the cyclist be to blame? (Unless the collision took place on a road from which cyclists were specifically barred)

I really don't want to have to do this in this thead (apologies Mandy), but as you've asked a general question, I will answer it:

1) If the cyclist suddenly changes lane without indicating, leaving the lorry no time to slow down.

2) If the cyclist is riding at night without lights, and the lorry can't see them.

There are always corner cases, you've even listed one yourself, which is why I am against a one-size-fits-all "the lorry driver is guilty unless proven otherwise". The laws can be changed to make it easier for the lorry driver to be prosecuted, but guilt should still be proven.

Mandy & Mandy's mum - brilliant news, altho I imagine a broken pelvis ain't a cakewalk. Heal up soon.

Natt - love that cartoon, just how I want my gf and daughter to travel. Do you think cargo bikes are better than Christiana bikes?

justMouse, I would imaging cargo bike being more useful than Christiana, I mean what else are you going to ride the Christiana for?

shopping would be a breeze on a cargo bike for instance.