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i'm surprised at some of the mass produced mediocrity lusted after in this thread.
reminds me of the city boys walking into evans and wanting that hideous 5k cannondale hanging on the wall because it's the most expensive.
why would you want a taiwanese built santa-cruz when you could have a custom de-kerf, dean. moots, baum, etc etc.
as for pinarello/de-rosa nice bikes with a lot of marketing money behind them. why settle for the mass produced mainstream when you could have a parlee, look, cyfac, zullo, baum, masi, serotta, vanilla, pegoretti etc.