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• #27
Motorbikes vs Bikes in london is a tough one, all comes down to legalities and red lights. Ignoring those and I'd say in 10miles cross town a well ridden push bike is a match for a mo'bike.
Ignoring legalities completely, I once did Kingston to Canary Wharf in 16minutes on my mo'bike. Bad old days, etc.....pre cameras in Limehouse Link.
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• #28
interestingly there is evidence that suggests motorists breath in the same if not more pollution, as the air intakes in cars that lead to the cabin are right behind the exhaust of the car in front. the cyclist however has more fresh air around them to dilute the fumes.
More according to I think a Swiss(?) study. Our breathing kit is far higher than the folds of exhaust gas that cars are scooping up, as you said.
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• #29
I am WIN!
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• #30
Phrases like "we need to regard using the car for short journeys as socially unacceptable" do cyclists no favours whatsoever, and I wish bike campaigners would stop spouting such inflamatory crap. Their cause would be far better served with something like "We need to realise that using the car for short journeys is pretty pointless"
+1 BQ,
It get on my tits as well. As far as selling bikes and train and buses as a form of transport it's too much it's one or the other is banged on about rather than using the correct tool for the job or doing one bit of a journey by one transport type and then swapping where appropriate.
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• #31
Phrases like "we need to regard using the car for short journeys as socially unacceptable" do cyclists no favours whatsoever, and I wish bike campaigners would stop spouting such inflamatory crap. Their cause would be far better served with something like "We need to realise that using the car for short journeys is pretty pointless"
+1 BQ,
It get on my tits as well. As far as selling bikes and train and buses as a form of transport it's too much it's one or the other is banged on about rather than using the correct tool for the job or doing one bit of a journey by one transport type and then swapping where appropriate.
It's all that, guys. Of course the argument from transportational utility is the most relevant, but different people have different priorities, and for some people it is a very important point that it's actually socially quite damaging. Others again look for the greater enjoyment of riding a bike, etc. Each to their own.
interestingly there is evidence that suggests motorists breath in the same if not more pollution, as the air intakes in cars that lead to the cabin are right behind the exhaust of the car in front. the cyclist however has more fresh air around them to dilute the fumes.