Stolen bikes

why should you have to secure your bike with ridiculous amounts of hardware? Why should it be your fault that your bike gets stolen? The person who steals it is just the antisocial moron who is always at fault, who has the problem and sadly shouldnt have the thought "oo that would be an easy steal, I will have that".

Those cheap locks are fine (i would imagine) in places where you are just trying to secure your bike to stop some drunk wandering off with it, not trying to make it impregnable to an aerial bombardment like in london.

I completely agree with you. You SHOULDN'T have to lug massive amounts of steel around with you and it DEFINITELY isn't the owners fault if there bike get's stolen but were dealing with the reality of hundred's if not thousands of toerags with there eye out for the easy mark. It's fine taking the moral high ground of saying i shouldnt have to lock my bike up with 5lbs of steel but the reality is your bike wont' last too long if you don't.

As far as cheap locks go, again i agree there fine for just popping into a shop or stopping someone wandering off with it. I have a mini evo for this purpose if i know i am not going to be leaving my bike anywhere for more than 10 mins.
I live in Peckham and i once saw a beater locked with two cheapo coil locks on the main high street for a whole week 24/7 before it was stolen. As metioned most bike theives are lazy opportunists - just dont give em the opportunity