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@Elioterio
^I disagree, from what I can tell they're pretty much the same, the whole 'radial lacing will break your hub' thing is a load of bollox unless you are riding sheriff stars or something. What are you talking about 'standard workhorse hub'? I didn't realise you were into track cycling back in the day. Brand/groupset doesn't really count for much, shimano sora isn't exactly the shiznit and that's a proper brand/groupset. It's been said on other threads, it's just a shell with ball bearings, there's not too much that can go wrong. However, if you have a real loathing of value for money, go for the primatos.