Rusty/raw finish

Yep I did use the search function, but (possibly due to my mild retardation) nothing came up.

im sure some of you have done this on here -
stripped the paint off a frame, let it tarnish or rust for a bit then clearcoat it.
what is the best way of doing this? im sure there have been threads before...
anyone got pictures of this finish?

ta.

Ask Sano about the rustbucket
now in the possession of Master Spaghetti Hoops

I did it to a friend's bonnet for him, and my mate's doing it to his whole car.

Nitromoors Paint Remover, leave outside until desired rust coverage required has been achieved, lacquer.

I have no idea if doing this allows the rust to continue to eat away at the metal underneath the clear coat so you might have to ask more people.

i think it's best to leave it to weathered until you see the rust appearing, and then clearcoat it.

my dad has some stuff which stops rust from progressing. i.e. the rust is still there, it just doesn't get any worse.
i think hammerite make it, i can find out what it's called if you like.

iron + water = rust

iron + water + chloride ions (salt) = fast rust

iron + no water = no rust i.e lacquered finish.

here are my two 'raw' bikes.

the first is the Rustbucket, which is just bare rust in the picture, but i'm going to lacquer it at the weekend. (not sure about how the paint was stripped as Sano did it!)
the second is a Plug that i stripped with Nitromors, sanded with fine wet & dry, then simply lacquered with halfords spray..... but the paint chips easily, so i'm going to take it to armourtex at somepoint, for a clear powdercoat.

is it me or is bare metal/rust the new black?.....everbody seems to be doing it now!

Trailblazer.

me??
more like trail follower.
i believe Murtle was the first on the forum to do such things.....

Originally my plan with the rustbucket was to strip it, then clearcoat it so it had the raw look, like some BMX's do. I used nitromors and an old wallpaper scraper. It took a few hours of buggering around, but in the end it ended up gleaming metal. I rode it home in the rain and just left it for the night. By the next morning there was a light tarnish of rust and I thought 'oooh....' So I left it some more.

I was definitely inspired by the Rat Rod thing in hot rods. I was going to lacquer it, but I never actually got round to it. Every now and then I'd rub the top coat of rust off. The clear metal part on the top tube was a result of carrying the bike up the stairs to my flat. Here's a picture Edscoble took of it, which I think makes it look awesome.

Noodle Doodles is now the proud owner of the rustbucket, his build is the first one of the two above.

I'm really not sure if leaving it unlacquered is good in the long term. Most of the people who do it that way in the US live in Cali where there's bugger all precipitation or humidity, so the rust never really gets hold. I think that lacquering it stops oxygen getting to the metal, so it can't rust - I'm not sure of the details though!

ride to southend but don't stop when you get to the end of the pier keep riding
leave salt water to take effect and hey presto rusty bike

i think this bike from exile cycles was Paternated, a fast metal weathering technique using chemicals (mostly acid). apparently you can get quite a controlled finish. might be worth a look.

nice.

yeah.... i love the hand beaten gas tank..... a work of genious!

sorry t ressurect a dead thread but anyone ever tried chemical paternation - any thoughts on whether it'll structually damage the frame?

there's a guy here in melbourne doing clear powder coating but he doesn't recommend it. mind you, the one on his website's been in a prang and still fine so maybe it isn't that much of a problem?
http://www.gelliecustombikeframes.com.au/ronasaurs-messenger-special-one-year.htm#

sorry t ressurect a dead thread but anyone ever tried chemical paternation - any thoughts on whether it'll structually damage the frame?

I've never tried it, but there's a lot of info about doing this sort of thing on the web in the context of gun or sculpture finishing - try searching for patina / patination (the correct spelling) + steel / ferrous metal. Turns up stuff like:

http://www.finishing.com/344/89.shtml

dante has a v nice rust mobile ...

I love this, some of my VW MKII buddies do this to their bonnet, strangely. Is this bike nick-proof? Like those sandwich bags that make your bread look moldy?

Is this bike nick-proof? Like those sandwich bags that make your bread look moldy?

yeah, i was wondering about that! looks awesome, i love it.

I was going to lacquer it, but I never actually got round to it. Every now and then I'd rub the top coat of rust off.

I'm really not sure if leaving it unlacquered is good in the long term.

Don't you end up with rust on clothes?

Massive bump here...

Is this the right stuff.. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-500ml-Nitromors-All-Purpose-Paint-Varnish-Remover_W0QQitemZ330400485289QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_DIY_Material_Paint_Varnish_MJ?hash=item4ced674fa9#ht_816wt_939

And roughly how much do people think i'd need for a bmx frame?

The new, "safe" Nitromors is rubbish. The job is rubbish. It's such a pain in the arse stripping a bike frame back to bare metal.

I'd look in the yellow pages and look for someone to sandblast it. Outside of London, it shouldn't cost more than £5.

If you wanted to do a bare metal finish, how about using engineer's blue? Really nasty chemical, though, be careful applying it.

it's just for a bmx frame which i don't like the colour of and thought rather than getting it resprayed something boring like black i'd just strip it myself. I'll look into sandblasting, cheers mate.

A bloke lived next door to a mate of mine, and he had a MK1 golf which was stripped and rusted all over... Looked strangly sweet!