Pake frames?

Evening,

Just after any thoughts/experiences with Pake frame sets, I've hit a search but found nothing.

Much appreciated

I really like how they look. only bad thing I've heard is that stock fork is 1" threadless

wow, what an old thread...

anyways, I'm thinking about getting a pake frame while I'm in the US of A next month.

now I know it's probably not the best frame out there but it does look decent, I haven't found too much bad opinions in the interweb and I wanna build up a new ride on a somewhat tight budget.

still, I wanted to ask you guy about your opinions / experiences... what do you think about it? worth a try or a no-go?

thanks

Cheap, decent frames like IROs... You can get them at that little bike shop near Condor on Clerkenwell Road if you want a coser look...

too bad I live in Switzerland so that's no option ;) and they don't sell it here... well thanks for the info. I'm probably gonna have to decide between the Pake and a Mercier Kilo TT, not really sure yet

At that price point there's quite a lot of choice now (IRO, Leader, KHS, loads of others I can't remember right now, maybe check GA2G's lists), do your research and I'm sure you'll pick up something decent at a good price... Good luck!

thanks. I checked the OTP list but problem is, all I need basically is a new frame, I want to keep my old parts such as crankset and saddle and wheelset and whatnot, but in the OTP list, the bikes are all pre-built obviously. but youre right, there really are more thank just the mercier and the pake - IRO, leader and KHS are definately alternatives, too... gotta do some searchin'!

The 2010 Pake has a 1-1/8" Headset. But i think it´s still straight gauge tubing and i don´t like the look of the unicrown fork. The Mercier Kilo tt has double butted tubing, a really nice looking fork and is about 20% cheaper. What ever you buy, get informed about import taxes first so there are no nasty surprises when you get back to Swizerland.

Also the KHS Flite100 is the same frame as the Kilo tt

I ride a Mark V as one of my bikes. I've put it through hell and back. I've also built it up in about 6 different ways, and it suits every build well. I've stripped it painted it, dented it, drilled holes in the dropouts, left it to die and brought it back to good form with little effort.

I hate the Mercier for no reason other than it seems the worst riders choose them. Clearly the go-to choice when some loser wants a "fixed gear". Butted tubes? At this price point who cares?

The Pake is ridden by a friend of mine and it works, but i think the dropouts and downtube on the Mark V are much nicer.

I'd gladly build up a nice Leader. Very very popular work bike here in the States and a worth choice. Good riders choose them around here.

thanks. I checked the OTP list but problem is, all I need basically is a new frame, I want to keep my old parts such as crankset and saddle and wheelset and whatnot, but in the OTP list, the bikes are all pre-built obviously. but youre right, there really are more thank just the mercier and the pake - IRO, leader and KHS are definately alternatives, too... gotta do some searchin'!

IRO makes a frame called the Angus. It's a good bit better than all the bikes mentioned thus far (people are refering the IRO Mark V when they say "IRO"). Reynolds 631 tubing. 1" threaded headset. A nice frame! Look into it.

Also, just saw that IRO makes the Mark V in a "pro" version which is Reynolds 631 tubing. This would be a good choice if you wanted a 1 1/8 threadless headset.

There are also some differences between these two bikes regarding whether you want to run rear brakes.

both of these are nice bikes and you're getting a lot for the the money.

IRO makes a frame called the Angus. It's a good bit better than all the bikes mentioned thus far (people are refering the IRO Mark V when they say "IRO"). Reynolds 631 tubing. 1" threaded headset. A nice frame! Look into it.

Also, just saw that IRO makes the Mark V in a "pro" version which is Reynolds 631 tubing. This would be a good choice if you wanted a 1 1/8 threadless headset.

There are also some differences between these two bikes regarding whether you want to run rear brakes.

both of these are nice bikes and you're getting a lot for the the money.

thanks for the tips jersey, much appreciated!

well I checked the IRO website and took a closer look at the Angus and Mark V Pro, I like them both a lot but I think I'd prefer the Mark V Pro (same price, same steel, Mark V Pro has a 1 1/8" threadless fork, no bottle mounts (I like it clean haha), and I somehow just like the look better, especially the front part with the straight forks, even though I'm not too keen on the white paintjob...)

thanks again... I will check and see where I can get one, maybe even here in Switzerland, who knows...

My first fixed wheel bike was an IRO and I loved it, it's now someone else's faithful polo steed... You won't go far wrong with one... :]

thanks for the tips jersey, much appreciated!

well I checked the IRO website and took a closer look at the Angus and Mark V Pro, I like them both a lot but I think I'd prefer the Mark V Pro (same price, same steel, Mark V Pro has a 1 1/8" threadless fork, no bottle mounts (I like it clean haha), and I somehow just like the look better, especially the front part with the straight forks, even though I'm not too keen on the white paintjob...)

thanks again... I will check and see where I can get one, maybe even here in Switzerland, who knows...

the geometries are identical between those two, so the choice is really aesthetics and type of headset you want. I'm partial to the Angus, frankly.

My IRO is the base level Mark V and is 6 or 7 years old, and the quality is excellent. Assuming nothign has changed about where the frames are made, I think that these are excellent choices. The welds are tight and consistent enough that the frame looks wonderful when stripped raw.

IRO also has a 1/2 price crash replacement policy which is nice.

I think this is the most new frame you can get for this price or less.

peace.

cheers guys, thanks again for all the info

I'm currently trying to find out what the best choice is for me to get an IRO frame (financially), either get it here in Switzerland or import it from Germany or get it myself when I'm in Canada & the US at the end of June.

well anyways, thanks again! really looking forward to getting it :)

I'm riding one of the pre-2010 Pake frames - bought it off someone here. It's my first "track" frame so nothing to compare to but it feels solid and it's a blast to ride; I much prefer how it feels to my previous road bike fixed conversion. Obviously depends how you build it up but it's plenty light enough and deals well with the shite roads of south east london.

the latest version of the paké rum runner frame has a clearance for 32c tires, which is very nice:
https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/pake-frame-rum-runner-silver-mercury-5465?category=1018
if you live in switzerland, you should consider the gorilla hattara frameset:
https://gorillabicycles.com/collections/hattara-complete-bikes/products/hattara?variant=12315812036688