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Yeah maybe for 'proper' track frames, but not, it seems for lower end track frames.
I also have a Dolan track frame which has a longer top tube than seat tube, at least 1cm if not 2! And that also has a good 1 or 1.5cm seat tube rise above the tt, Its more road geometry, the Nelson is much shorter. It is also shorter than a Fuji Track 56 frame, as myself and JJS were comparing them last night.