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  • really? I've just changed up to the deore's on my dj bike from the bb7 and the difference is unbelievable. The avids were really jerky and meant that I almost killed myself a couple of times because I had no confidence breaking on off camber corners etc.

    the deore's are way better than the hope's I used to have too, and better than some of the avid juicy's – I really can't say enough good things about them. Cheap too.

    I'm surprised the xt was a let down - shimano normally make really good disc brakes.. it's all about xtr ftw though! I'd take xtr over pretty much any other brake - even all the high end Avids and Hope's.

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