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RIP. Condolensces to the family and friends.

NO NO NO! Not another life lost! Condolences to the family.

What ever happened to the spoke card campaign to warn the Cyclists of the dangers!?
Yes these lorry drivers drive like idiots, but one way to avoid all these losses, is to educate people
against the dangers!

This NEEDS to STOP!! Another sad day.

I am so sorry to hear about this, another life taken by a truck. My condolences to the family and friends.

I wrote to Boris after Eilidh's death - and I did get a response, outlining a few things that he was doing. I may write again - this time I will ask him to make cycle safety one of his priorities, as Oliver suggests. This has got to stop.

Absolutely tragic.

I see far too many bleary-eyed HGV drivers in the morning. Huge generalisation, perhaps, but I swear half of them have spent most of the previous night on the piss and then spend the following day driving around in a hazy bubble. Not on.

To be fair to the Mayor, a lot of the things that need to be done about lorries are not the responsibility of his regional government but a nationwide issue. For instance, the LCC has been calling for the UK to adopt Continental-style mirrors on all HGVs, not just post-2000 HGVs. Charlie will be able to add more detail.

However, the Mayor needs to realise what a high level of concern this is causing London's cycling community so that he can communicate this to the Government. The best way of demonstrating this strong shared feeling is not an organised letter writing campaign or petition, but individuals writing their own private letters. So get scribbling and inundate him with your missives. And tell all your friends.

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Rest in peace

Have just seen this really sad news
Thoughts go out to her family and friends
Rest in peace x

Her name was Catriona, according to a relative posting on stockwellnews.com

RIP

To be fair to the Mayor, a lot of the things that need to be done about lorries are not the responsibility of his regional government but a nationwide issue. For instance, the LCC has been calling for the UK to adopt Continental-style mirrors on all HGVs, not just post-2000 HGVs. Charlie will be able to add more detail.

However, the Mayor needs to realise what a high level of concern this is causing London's cycling community so that he can communicate this to the Government. The best way of demonstrating this strong shared feeling is not an organised letter writing campaign or petition, but individuals writing their own private letters. So get scribbling and inundate him with your missives. And tell all your friends.

[advertising]As ever, if you want to support the LCC in our campaigning, join now. You don't have to get heavily involved if you're a member, although of course we'd love it if you did. :)[/advertising]

I agree with Oliver (except the part about the LCC - ;-) ) - individual letters are much better than a petition.

FWIW, here's a letter that I wrote last year:
http://www.movingtargetzine.com/article/written , if you are really struggling.

Got this email at lunch about this, terrible, and I hate to say it, but the fatalities are mostly women, this one looked like she knew how to ride, the pics show she was wearing cycling shoes, surly she must of known the dangers of passing on the left?

http://www.thelondonpaper.com/thelondonpaper/news/london/female-cyclist-crushed-by-lorry-outside-oval-tube

Got this email at lunch about this, terrible, and I hate to say it, but the fatalities are mostly women, this one looked like she knew how to ride, the pics show she was wearing cycling shoes, surly she must of known the dangers of passing on the left?

http://www.thelondonpaper.com/thelondonpaper/news/london/female-cyclist-crushed-by-lorry-outside-oval-tube

For anyone who doesn't have a strong stomach i suggest not looking at the pictures... awful.

Got this email at lunch about this, terrible, and I hate to say it, but the fatalities are mostly women, this one looked like she knew how to ride, the pics show she was wearing cycling shoes, surly she must of known the dangers of passing on the left?

That is horrific. Has to be said though - you take you life into your own hands if you try undertaking trucks / HGV's / buses etc on the inside. Mental behaviour.

Not saying that is what happened in this case (although it looks a bit like it) - but I see it everyday and it makes me cringe.

Regardless - RIP whoever you were.

Pluck

None of us witnessed this terrible accident so we do not know what happened. Idle speculation and sweeping generalisations serve no useful purpose so let's not make ill-informed comments on what happened.

Quite.
We do not know that this poor woman undertook the truck. She might have done nothing of the kind.
RIP Catriona.

Got this email at lunch about this, terrible, and I hate to say it, but the fatalities are mostly women, this one looked like she knew how to ride, the pics show she was wearing cycling shoes, surly she must of known the dangers of passing on the left?

http://www.thelondonpaper.com/thelondonpaper/news/london/female-cyclist-crushed-by-lorry-outside-oval-tube

And she was wearing a helmet and Hi-Viz. Hardly fucking inconspicuous was she? Where the hell was the lorry driver looking?

None of us witnessed this terrible accident so we do not know what happened. Idle speculation and sweeping generalisations serve no useful purpose so let's not make ill-informed comments on what happened.

Quite so. But looking beyond this horrible event, I have lost count of how many people I still see undertaking lorries at intersections so the message is clearly not getting through to enough people. There is more work to be done to educate cyclists at large regarding how to ride safely on the road (as well as all of the work regarding HGVs, etc).

There was a brief report/pic on this in 'thelondonpaper' tonight

just found out she was a friend of a friend, they(including her husband) were riding last weekend making plans for the Etape du Tour next month.
i never had the pleasure of meeting her but i don't think i will be able to use that junction without remembering the loss of another cyclist to a left turning lorry.

I left some flowers and a note at the railings to the left road tonight have ridden past just after the accident on monday morning. RIP and our thoughts are with her family and friends

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What ever happened to the spoke card campaign to warn the Cyclists of the dangers!?

Okay, I'm sorry but, spoke card? I frankly highly doubt that this is the most effective way of warning cyclists of the dangers, especially in small prints on a spinning wheel, and if it happen to be on the right way up in full view of everyone else, I still doubt they'd decided for a moment to read the spokes card.

Okay, I'm sorry but, spoke card? I frankly highly doubt that this is the most effective way of warning cyclists of the dangers, especially in small prints on a spinning wheel, and if it happen to be on the right way up in full view of everyone else, I still doubt they'd decided for a moment to read the spokes card.

+1

Okay, I'm sorry but, spoke card? I frankly highly doubt that this is the most effective way of warning cyclists of the dangers, especially in small prints on a spinning wheel, and if it happen to be on the right way up in full view of everyone else, I still doubt they'd decided for a moment to read the spokes card.

+1

Time to leaflet HGV blindspots to all London Evans/Cyclesurgery/LBSs and mandatory leaflet with Cyclescheme/bike purchase... Not enough being done :(

very sad to hear another cyclist died.

The spoke card idea was always debateable. Unfortunately, those who think spoke cards are "cool", have also thought spoke cards were a good idea in communicating to the public.

Not only have I, and now Ed, and others tried to make others aware that spoke cards cannot be read, specially when in motion, so what are we then communicating? The colours?

Sorry, Ed put it politely, but I'm not. We're talking about people getting killed, and action being taken to reduce this. A campaign where 99.99% of people cannot possibly see what we are saying is not helpful.

There were loads of ideas floating about in other threads, but why people keep returning to an idea which does not deliver the message, is strange to me.

The sign/motif at the top of this KiwiCycles page, was created here, on Lfgss. That is quite brilliant. http://www.kiwicycles.com/links.htm

No disrespect meant to Donut!. Its that particular concept I'm against, not people pooling ideas.