• just slightly bemused by how many people think it's worth spending money on £300 colourful plastic wheels but the idea of spending money on getting a bike that fits them is beyond them. which if you are going to ride it any reasonable distance is quite important.

    That excludes a whole bunch of people who don't spend £300 on plastic wheels and cannot afford more than a budget bike but still want to ride, without pain or problems. There are people on here who constantly equate acceptable levels of comfort with expense; cycling has always, and should remain, for everyone. In this spirit...

    I'm just slightly bemused by how someone comes on here expecting to be pandered to and spoonfed by people they don't know and who don't owe them anything, when a google search "frame sizing bike" reveals all you need to make a sound basic judgement on what sizes to be interested in on ebay, including tables of seat tubes, top tubes, standover heights, stem reaches, saddle positioning and a whole bunch of other things to get you running at the right geometery,along with Sheldon Brown's marvellous site, which seems no longer to be touted as the starting point for everyone coming back to bikes. You read, you digest, you make an informed decision and if you are buying second hand - believe it or not - you are either lucky or patient. Really, if I can do it, so can you.

    And to the poster who is well into her second or third week of shouting "look at me! look at me!! yes but look at meeee!!!" on here for some strange reason - don't blame anyone else but yourself if you end up with the wrong size when you so obviously can't be arsed to do anything off your own back. No-one on here owes you anything.

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