it's the effective top tube that matters (as long as you have enough standover) it sounds like both bikes are the wrong size for you.
a good fit is essential IMHO but a lot of people ride bikes that are the wrong size as the colour or make of frame is more important. for them the discomfort is worth putting up with.
it's the effective top tube that matters (as long as you have enough standover) it sounds like both bikes are the wrong size for you.
a good fit is essential IMHO but a lot of people ride bikes that are the wrong size as the colour or make of frame is more important. for them the discomfort is worth putting up with.