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tynan i am way out of my depth here clearly.
i actually didnt know that the universe meant literally everything. i thought it was some abstract idea of what scientists believe, with boundaries. hence my notion of what is past the boundaries?
but if a truely empty space is just a philosophical idea, isnt it sort of a moot point?
i see exactly what you mean about where there is nothing there is no time. and no i cant explain what this stuff time is. but i can say that time is not a measure of change, in fact it is change which is measured against time, which is infinite.
this is funny, im sitting here laughing at myself and my point, thinking back to all the religeon threads i have read where you have posted. it sounds like ii am talking about god, or heaven in the way i cant describe it but yet know it. take a walk in my shoes?
time is an abstract concept which is only really describable in terms of change, yet to my mind, it is independant of that change. seperate and not dependant upon it for its continuation. its the best i can do and we'll have to agree to disagree.
im spent, but i didnt do too badly did i? im actually quite proud of myself for carrying on this long and being able to articulate in this way. and to think, it all comes down to a sticky point about not being able to describe time...